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Radio Free Delingpole #12: Said On Twitter

Much to James Delingpole’s dismay, Ricochet’s CoC does not extend to the wild west environs of Twitter. Today, he and The Daily Mail’s conservative blogger Abhijit Pandya (read his indispensable blog here) discuss freedom of speech on public networks. It’s a fascinating and much needed debate. 

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  1. Ethan, College Conservative

    I’m looking forward to listening to this later. This is quickly becoming my favorite podcast on Ricochet. Thanks James (and Blue Yeti) for frequently getting this podcast out.

  2. Tennessee Patriot

    BTW James: I meant to tell you a few days ago that I, for one, greatly enjoy your discussion of Yankee politics and your observation that Romney = Cameron. 

  3. Israel P.
    Dan: I do want to disagree with Mr. Pandya on one point; I’d say Justice Thomas is the strongest anti-Obamacare vote on the Court.  He seems to be excellent on limited government and Constitutional originalism and I highly doubt he pays attention to race at all. · 5 hours ago

    That, and the strange idea that if Obamacare falls, it is no longer critical to prevent a second term.  After discussing SCOTUS, he seems to miss the fact that if Obama gets to appoint more judges, this court victory may be the last.

    I think they simply don’t understand.

  4. ParisParamus

    Not sure I understand the premise of this podcast:  there are conservatives calling for speech prosecutions?

  5. Daniel Sattelberger

    I do want to disagree with Mr. Pandya on one point; I’d say Justice Thomas is the strongest anti-Obamacare vote on the Court.  He seems to be excellent on limited government and Constitutional originalism and I highly doubt he pays attention to race at all.

  6. Chris Johnson

    Yes, Paris, on these pages, Ricochet commentors gave James that impression.

    I still love this (sometimes horribly wrong) view from afar of the situation in the US.  Mr. Pandya might benefit from reading a bit more about Thomas; to assume his thinking is informed by skin color in that way is to miss Mr. Justice Thomas, completely.  May I suggest he peruse this?

  7. Chris Johnson

    Nice choice of songs to carry the Twitter topic out, Yeti.

  8. Aaron Miller

    “I never met one student who said, ‘I want to go out and make jobs for other people.’ ” Great point.

    “They were all bloody lawyers.” Good riposte.

    While we do need people to create new businesses, few people do so for the purpose of creating jobs for other people. They do so to enrich themselves or to fulfill opportunities in the marketplace. Employing others is a means to an end.

    I think Pandya hits on something vital at the end (and I hope I’m not twisting his words). We can’t turn our cultures around by coaxing people to devote their lives to a political party or any other organization. They must change for themselves. They must live for themselves. Our arguments should focus on individuals.

  9. The Gold Tooth

    What’s the deal with “Watermelons” US publication?

    As of today, it’s not sold directly by Amazon, only available there from other vendors at prices ranging from $16 to $95 (for a paperback!). Has it even been published in the US? For the record, I’d like to buy a copy from a reputable source at a reasonable price. Why can’t I do this?

  10. Al Kennedy

    James, thanks very much for another informative poscast.  I share the views above that Mr. Pandya couldn’t be more wrong about Justice Thomas.  He is probably the strongest anti-Obamacare vote on the court.  I particularly enjoyed the discussion of Leftism versus Conservatism.  Your point that what we are really fighting is the philosophy of egalitarianism was particularly insightful.

  11. EJHill

    We should rename it…

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  12. billy

    Listening to this podcast, I see how very different the challenges facing US and UK conservatives are.

    First, free speech.

    I got the impression that the host and guest believe that there is an assault on free speech from the right in the US.

    Where?

    The recent campaigns (if you can call them that) against Bill Maher and his ilk, have emphasized the hypocrisy of the Left, not the deleterious effect of their speech itself.

    If anything, the American right has been content to hide safely behind the 1st amendment bulwark of, ” This is my opinion, and you’re obligated to hear it whether you like it or not!”

    (a bulwark British Conservatives don’t have)

    Again, what am I missing, where is the right-wing assault on the 1st amendment?

    Secondly, the presidency.

    Will Romney be a cross-Atlantic David Cameron?

    No. Should Romney move so far to the left that conservatives become as discouraged as you two, he’s done.

    How?

    The primary system.

    In 2016, Sarah Palin campaigns in Iowa and picks up Marco Rubio’s endorsement. (the names will be different by then just work with me)

    Romney’s career will be finished.

    Two people.

  13. Yeah...ok.

    Delingpole Rocks! (I don’t know twitter)

    I thoroughly enjoyed Abhijit Pandya’s discussion about conservatism. I will replay this podcast so I can learn to parrot his wording. Something about making policy for the few and forcing it on the rest.

  14. I haven’t listened to the podcast yet, but I did pop over to Pandya’s blog. The articles are interesting but this one about Brave Mr. Pickles caught my attention. I mean no disrespect, but it really made me chuckle. http://pandyablog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/03/brave-eric-pickles-is-trying-to-protect-our-culture-by-demanding-excellent-english-from-immigrants.html

  15. Canuckski

    This was all very interesting until Abhijit Pandya brought up the Galileo canard.  Two hundred characters isn’t enough to talk it through, but it’s not that difficult to find out what really happened.  Let’s just say that there was fault on both sides; and Galileo stepped way beyond what his science was able to prove and into the realm of theology.

    When discussing the ignorance and lack of education of others, try not to expose your own.

    Shame.

  16. Barkha Herman

    Mr. D -

    I wanted to drop a line and let you know that not all conservatives are for censorship and this is one of the problems I do have with the organized political parties on both sides…  People are so caught up in loyalty that they end up compromising on principles.  This is why I find common ground with the so called “fringe” people who stay with their principles, and prefer to call myself independent (who, incidentally, has never voted for a Democrat).

    I am glad to have heard the conversation with  Abhijit Pandya, now I have more weekly reading….

  17. Donald Todd

    (Galileo) met with opposition from astronomers, who doubted heliocentrism due to the absence of an observed stellar parallax.[9] The matter was investigated by theRoman Inquisition in 1615, and they concluded that it could only be supported as a possibility, not as an established fact. Galileo later defended his views in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, which appeared to attack Pope Urban VIII and thus alienated him and the Jesuits, who had both supported Galileo up until this point. He was tried by the Inquisition, found “vehemently suspect of heresy”, forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

    The Roman Church backed science but Galileo lacked proofs, for which his contemporaries called him out.  

  18. David Lund

    Alito will vote to affirm Obamacare? (“Ginsburg and Alito” spoken of as a an ideological pair?)  Thomas will not strike it down because he is black (and will decide based on identity politics!)?  Kennedy is thought of by people as a sound conservative?  The court will affirm Obamacare by a vote of 5 to 3?  (Poor Justice Breyer).  Come on guys, you can do better than this.

  19. Barkha Herman

    @D -

    I have to wonder aloud after listening to all the Brit perspective on conservatism… Is there a British Ron Paul?  Is there a British Reason Foundation?  In there libertarian movement gaining momentum in England?  Is there a British version of Thiel Foundation or Fire?  I’ve read you go on an on about Eaton.  Is there a “step out of the Eaton box” mentality or is it all about messaging the system from within?  Is there a “disrupt” UK?  

    I apologize for my ignorance in advance :-)

  20. Stephen Bishop

    The point is that Galileo should not have been prosecuted for simply having an opinion. It follows from the context of the podcast. 

    Canuckski: This was all very interesting until Abhijit Pandya brought up the Galileo canard.  Two hundred characters isn’t enough to talk it through, but it’s not that difficult to find out what really happened.  Let’s just say that there was fault on both sides; and Galileo stepped way beyond what his science was able to prove and into the realm of theology.

    When discussing the ignorance and lack of education of others, try not to expose your own.

    Shame. · Apr 1 at 9:56am

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