Politically Incorrect

In his remarks to the American people yesterday, President Obama insisted that raising the debt ceiling is a non-negotiable reality. Lest Republican lawmakers get the wrong idea, he made it clear that “The financial well-being of the American people is not leverage to be used.” He is justified in being so audaciously hopeful in the face of opposition, of course, because the American people reelected him. In his words, Republicans have “got a particular view of what government should do and should be. And, you know, that view was rejected by the American people when it was debated during the presidential campaign.”

The American people don’t care about limiting the size and scope of government? And here I thought we were a society that had transcended ignorant demographic labels.

  1. Patrick in Albuquerque

    Fiscal conservatives have yet to deal with the reality that the public likes “freebies”. It’s only a question of where we are wrt the Tocqueville moment. For my money, we have passed it.

  2. Joseph Eagar

    Tactically,  I think it makes much more sense for us to fight over the continuing resolution and the sequester than the debt ceiling.  Unfortunately, the chances that the Democrats will let us simply raise the ceiling are probably zilch, for that very reason.  They benefit from having the ceiling fight first.  So we might as well fight for spending cuts and entitlement reform as much as we can.  Republicans certainly aren’t going to raise taxes again.

  3. Nick Stuart

    “The financial well-being of the American people…” is precisely what President Obama is using for leverage by insisting on a raised debt ceiling to avoid short term bad effects (default, Social Security checks being held up, bills not being paid on time) while ignoring the long-term bad effects of continuing annual deficits in excess of a trillion dollars.

    The size of government and entitlements are being grown to a point where annual deficits in the 1-to-2 trillion dollar range will soon seem as quaint as deficits in the 100-to-200 billion dollar range.

    At some point however we will, like Greece or the Weimar Republic, hit the true debt ceiling when nobody will lend us the money to continue our deficit spending, with absolutely devastating effects on the “financial well-being of the American people”

    The frightening part of it is that it doesn’t seem like anybody on any side in congress has any interest whatever in slowing this runaway train by even the smallest amount. When it goes off the rails, as it certainly will, the wreckage will be ghastly.

  4. Jolly Roger

    Yep just like that 2010 election when the Affordable Care Act was debated and resoundingly affirmed by the American people by huge Democratic Congressional victories— oh wait a second…

  5. Duane Oyen

    Joseph, this is easy.  The House should simply pass a straight debt ceiling increase to cover 6 months at the current CR rate, and then go on to adult pursuits.  Obama doesn’t need to agree- if the thing is there, he either accepts it or throws a tantrum.  As long as we don’t load the debt ceiling bill with unproductive eyewash, he is stuck and Harry has to act.

    The only way the Left can win the debt ceiling is if we make an issue of it and either don’t pass anything, or we pass something with an obvious and recognizable poison pill in it.

    If the TEA caucus can’t understand that, we deserve what we will get.

  6. Joseph Eagar
    Duane Oyen: Joseph, this is easy.  The House should simply pass a straight debt ceiling increase to cover 6 months at the current CR rate, and then go on to adult pursuits.  Obama doesn’t need to agree- if the thing is there, he either accepts it or throws a tantrum.  As long as we don’t load the debt ceiling bill with unproductive eyewash, he is stuck and Harry has to act.

    That’s worth trying.  I guess I’m a bit traumatized by the way Obama seems immune to public blowback.

  7. SteveS

    I believe this imperial president will never make any policy proposals in any way shape or form that are fundamentally sound for this great nation.

    I believe he welcomes a crisis of the magnitude similar to the great depression or Civil War in which he can exercise executive powers on a scale heretofore unseen. We have already been witness to his unconstitutional executive actions that have to date remained basically unchallenged by either party, how much less resistance would he face in a true crisis.

    Anxiety, instability, fear, divisiveness and ultimately chaos are all welcome in his vision of America.

    His most outrageous statement, among many in his press conference yesterday, was in my opinion “not letting congress hold a gun to the head of the American people”.

    In light of the recent heart wrenching tragedy in Connecticut and nonstop lecturing we have endured on gun control he deliberately chose those unseemly words very carefully and yet no one holds him accountable for such a blatant provocative act.

    He holds no part of this great country’s past in high regard and esteems only it’s decline and destruction he currently crafts, to be rebuilt in his image and vision.

  8. dittoheadadt

    In his words, Republicans have “got a particular view of what government should do and should be. And, you know, that view was rejected by the American people when it was debated during the presidential campaign.”

    Obambi seems to ignore, as do the media, the fact that virtually HALF of the “American people” rejected HIM and his ideas, and that a substantial majority of GOP House Representatives were elected by that same “American people.”

  9. Duane Oyen
    Joseph Eagar

    Duane Oyen: Joseph, this is easy.  The House should simply pass a straight debt ceiling increase to cover 6 months at the current CR rate, and then go on to adult pursuits.  Obama doesn’t need to agree- if the thing is there, he either accepts it or throws a tantrum.  As long as we don’t load the debt ceiling bill with unproductive eyewash, he is stuck and Harry has to act.

    That’s worth trying.  I guess I’m a bit traumatized by the way Obama seems immune to public blowback. · 14 minutes ago

    We’ve never done an ything like this yet, Joseph.  We keep trying to fight Obama in the press, where we will always lose.  Just once, pick the right battle (the budget/CR is the right place) and act.  To get there, we need to jump past the debt ceiling- which itself is hopeless, since at least 80% of the country opposes playing games with the debt ceiling, and it offers myriad sound bites for Emperor Obama.

    Don’t eat the d@%^ apple, Snow White!

  10. Israel P.

    This is how the third term will happen. “We cannot allow an old paper written by dead white men to stand in the way of the will of the people.” And the new SCOTUS will stand by and watch.

  11. KC Mulville

    The teenaged daughter who overspent her parents’ credit card is now laying down an ultimatum that she will NOT curtail her spending.

    Dad didn’t take away the card immediately. He waited for the end of the four year term, and he didn’t want to give her another. But the mother caved, and now the daughter has another four year term. The mother wants the father to keep paying the bills, no matter how much the daughter spends.

    That tells you two things. First, the bills will just keep coming. Second, the divorce is going to be angry and bitter.

  12. Joseph Eagar
    Duane Oyen

    We’ve never done an ything like this yet, Joseph.  We keep trying to fight Obama in the press, where we will always lose.  Just once, pick the right battle (the budget/CR is the right place) and act.  To get there, we need to jump past the debt ceiling- which itself is hopeless, since at least 80% of the country opposes playing games with the debt ceiling, and it offers myriad sound bites for Emperor Obama.

    Don’t eat the d@%^ apple, Snow White! · 4 hours ago

    We did that in 2011 and 2012, didn’t we?  Passed a whole slew of budgets.  None of it seemed to matter.

  13. Joseph Eagar
    KeystoneStater: I believe this imperial president will never make any policy proposals in any way shape or form that are fundamentally sound for this great nation.

    After the election, a disturbing number of liberals (including, rumor has it, WH staffers) have been advocating the idea that if we just let entitlements head into a crisis, the American people will cough up the new tax revenue needed to pay for them.  Of course this is impossible; the liabilities are too big to be paid for by any amount of tax hikes.  Even a VAT wouldn’t save the entitlement state from benefit cuts.

  14. Maura Pennington
    C
    dittoheadadt:In his words, Republicans have “got a particular view of what government should do and should be. And, you know, that view was rejected by the American people when it was debated during the presidential campaign.”

    Obambi seems to ignore, as do the media, the fact that virtually HALF of the “American people” rejected HIM and his ideas, and that a substantial majority of GOP House Representatives were elected by that same “American people.” · 5 hours ago

    Precisely!

  15. FloppyDisk90

    You have to understand that in Obama’s own mind there is no difference between his own will and the will of the people.