Most Surreal Moment of the Debate?

I think the most surreal part of the debate (even worse than BHO claiming that wind farms will lead us to prosperity) was the discussion of contraception. I think the question had to do with equal pay, right? But Obama quickly pivoted to contraception because, and I quote: “Governor Romney feels comfortable having politicians in Washington decide the health care choices that women are making.” 

Weird, no? From the guy who wants the Independent Payment Advisory Board to decide the health care choices of every single American, man and woman. Turns out that because Romney doesn’t want to force employers to subsidize contraceptives, he is somehow empowering Washington bureaucrats.

Any CNN fact checkers interested in that factoid? No, it’s 11:22 Eastern, and they are still endlessly “fact checking” the Libya exchange.

  1. Sheila S.

    I was also amused at the way the President managed to parse an equal pay question into a contraception answer.  Probably because his administration has been in the headlines for his own hypocrisy/failures in this area.  Romney could have hit him hard on that one and didn’t.  

    Overall Romney didn’t seem quite as prepared in this debate.  There were many instances that just cried out for him to slam Obama’s record and/or lies and Romney neglected to do so.  I was yelling at my TV and frustrated.   When he shined, he was excellent, which is why I think his performance was acceptable overall.

  2. Mel Foil

    That’s two issues–Benghazi and contraception–where apparently, the President and Vice President never compared notes. Biden said no Catholic is forced to violate their conscience. Obama says, you better believe they’re required, and they should be.

  3. mask

    Obama displayed the typical progressive thinking – if the government is providing you with something or forcing a private citizen to provide it to you then you are being denied something.  This is why they hate the constitution and “negative” rights that limit government and push “positive” rights that embody what a government should do to and for people.

  4. Ed G.
    Vance Richards: Obama went on to say, “In my health care bill, I said insurancecompaniesneed to provide contraceptive coverage to everybody who is insured. . . . .Governor Romney not only opposed it, hesuggested that in fact employers should be able to make the decision as to whether or not a woman gets contraception through her insurance coverage.”

    So, does that clear anything up for you?

    If the government mandates coverage, that is free choice. If the government doesn’t force you to do something then, by allowing you to make your own choice, the government is deciding for you. I’m pretty sure that is what he said, but I have no idea what it means. · 8 hours ago

    I kept waiting for Romney to get ahold of that incongruity and use it to demonstrate just how out of touch, socialistic, and downright goofy Obama is, but Romney didn’t touch it. This is the biggest whiff of the night, in my opinion.

  5. katievs

    Another odd thing:

    Obama kept talking as if defunding Planned Parenthood would mean depriving women of cancer screenings and birth control.  But wait.  Aren’t those things covered now (without co-pay!) in Obamacare?  So, what do we need Planned Parenthood for, except abortions?  And why should tax payers be funding abortions?

    It’s maddening that Romney didn’t jump on these things.  But, politically, it may have been for the best.  He’s just not really at ease on the pro-life issues.  It’s not in him the way it was in, say, Rick Santorum.

    I don’t doubt he’ll advance our cause, but when it comes to debate rhetoric, he does best when he’s talking jobs and economy.

  6. Paul Erickson
    Sheila S.: I was also amused at the way the President managed to parse an equal pay question into a contraception answer.  Probably because his administration has been in the headlines for his own hypocrisy/failures in this area.  Romney could have hit him hard on that one and didn’t.  

    · 1 hour ago

    Right.  I was stunned that Obama switched the topic to contraception at this point.  Unfortunately Romney missed the opportunity to knock it out of the park.

    I felt that the previous two debates were moderated fairly (Lehrer let them both go at it, what’s-her-name asked some pointed follow-ups to both Ryan and Biden.)  But I found Crowley to be rather biased in her habit of shutting down Romney when he tried to respond to the Obamanidiocies.

  7. Sweezle

    The lack of facts Obama has on easy questions, like the number of oil permits on public lands was surreal. He could barely remember that his administration pulled or halted the existing permits are dragging their heels on giving anymore out.

    This morning I saw the RCP video of Michelle Obama loudly clapping when Candy was “defending” Obama on Libya. So much for the debate rules. Between Candy protecting Obama and Obama interrupting and talking over Romney often, I still think on substance Romney won last night.

  8. TaleenaS

    When gas was $1.84 it was because the economy was dying under Bush.  My gas prices of $4 bucks is indicative of a strong economy. /Obama

    Wait, WHAT?! I don’t know why I expect sense to proceed out of the mouth of that man, still.  Lies, nonsense and condescension are his modes of communication. 

  9. Jimmy Carter

    Hilarious. Well played.

  10. Whiskey Sam

    The whole thing was disjointed.  There was no rhythm at all to the exchange.  Obama took a page from Biden in just talking about nothing until you forget what the question was.

  11. Retail Lawyer

    Yes, that was pretty surreal.  However, my vote is for Obama claiming he pronounced the Bengazi attack as terrorism on the morning of 9/12 in the Rose Garden, and Ms Crowley inserting herself into the exchange to say the transcript backs the President up.  I saw his speech, and recall no pronouncement of terrorism.  Romney had a “what the heck” look on his face.  Wow

  12. Maura Pennington
    C

    Surrealism is a deliberate artform.  When something irrational happens naturally without notice or concern, I think we’re just supposed to call it “life.”

  13. Vance Richards

    Obama went on to say, “In my health care bill, I said insurance companies need to provide contraceptive coverage to everybody who is insured. . . . . Governor Romney not only opposed it, he suggested that in fact employers should be able to make the decision as to whether or not a woman gets contraception through her insurance coverage.”

    So, does that clear anything up for you?

    If the government mandates coverage, that is free choice. If the government doesn’t force you to do something then, by allowing you to make your own choice, the government is deciding for you. I’m pretty sure that is what he said, but I have no idea what it means.

  14. Rudolf Halbensinn
    Retail Lawyer: …inserting herself into the exchange to say the transcript backs the President up.  I saw his speech, and recall no pronouncement of terrorism.  Romney had a “what the heck” look on his face.  Wow · 11 minutes ag

    This campaign will go down in history as the Election Campaign with the Most Unzung Zingers.

    I’ve been composing zingers for Romney months now but my requests for a contract have as yet gone unanswered.  Slowly I’m coming to the conclusion that Romney is not a zinger-flinger, ergo the “what the heck” look on his face that you describe.  Perhaps he allows the recognition of these untrue statements and ridiculous accusations to rest with the people voting. Perhaps he is thinking : let him flail, the people can see he’s flailing, they know he’s flailing.  He’s engaged in the one shovel-ready job of his administration in the cemetery of political significance.

    And any zinger would be certainly labelled ‘racist’ for those with canine perception.

  15. Umbra Fractus
    Retail Lawyer: Yes, that was pretty surreal.  However, my vote is for Obama claiming he pronounced the Bengazi attack as terrorism on the morning of 9/12 in the Rose Garden, and Ms Crowley inserting herself into the exchange to say the transcript backs the President up.  I saw his speech, and recall no pronouncement of terrorism.  Romney had a “what the heck” look on his face.  Wow · 44 minutes ago

    For me it was Obama implying that high gas prices were a sign of an improving economy. I’m surprised more people didn’t notice that one.

  16. West Facing Squirrel
    Umbra Fractus

    Retail Lawyer: Yes, that was pretty surreal.  However, my vote is for Obama claiming he pronounced the Bengazi attack as terrorism on the morning of 9/12 in the Rose Garden, and Ms Crowley inserting herself into the exchange to say the transcript backs the President up.  I saw his speech, and recall no pronouncement of terrorism.  Romney had a “what the heck” look on his face.  Wow · 44 minutes ago

    For me it was Obama implying that high gas prices were a sign of an improving economy. I’m surprised more people didn’t notice that one. · 12 minutes ago

    That was my favorite one, too.  It was at the top of Drudge during and shortly after the debate.  Unbelievable!  2+2=5