John McCain, Just So

An utterance from the senior Senator from the state of Arizona on the topic of the Benghazi scandal, with which it is difficult to disagree:

This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It’s either one of them.

Which puts two questions forefront in my mind: (1) If — heaven forfend — Barack Obama is narrowly reelected, will his second term be dominated by a potentially debilitating scandal virtually from its inception? (2) If Mitt Romney emerges victorious, will we ever get to the bottom of what happened to our men in Libya?

  1. Duane Oyen

    There is a fair chance that Obama is re-elected and then crashes completely due to this.  More and more is going to come out, conveniently after Nov 6, and I expect more leaks from DoD and CIA.

    It’s going to get ugly, folks.

  2. DocJay

    1) Impeachment is possible.

    2) President Romney better get to the bottom or otherwise he will be business as usual in all other respects which basically means we’re doomed.  

  3. DocJay
    Israel P.: What access does a President have to the records of a predecessor? Shouldn’t Romney be able to see who got what emails in September? Surely those are not personal papers that can be sealed.

    For that matter, can’t the new AG gather the Fast and Furious papers for his own inspection and for Rep. Issa?

    Shouldn’t much of the last four years become public quickly?

    (Well, maybe not the Jan 2013 file of the Sirhan Sirhan pardon.) · in 1 minute

    I hope you’re right about F and F.  

  4. Israel P.

    What access does a President have to the records of a predecessor? Shouldn’t Romney be able to see who got what emails in September? Surely those are not personal papers that can be sealed.

    For that matter, can’t the new AG gather the Fast and Furious papers for his own inspection and for Rep. Issa?

    Shouldn’t much of the last four years become public quickly?

    (Well, maybe not the Jan 2013 file of the Sirhan Sirhan pardon.)

  5. katievs

    Can’t a lame duck Congress get busy on this while the President elect (please God) is putting together his cabinet and transition team?

    I think it wouldn’t be bad to have Obama and his top administrators occupied with self-defense during their last weeks in office.  That would give them less time and energy for mischief.

  6. Troy Senik, Ed.
    katievs: Can’t a lame duck Congress get busy on this while the President elect (please God) is putting together his cabinet and transition team?

    Fiscal cliff is set to arrive January 2. They’re going to have their hands full.

  7. flownover

    The Clinton kids were busy popping the W keys off the computers and gluing locks shut. I imagine the Obamatrons have much more malign intent as to what will occupy their last months in power.

    You think Mumia will get pardoned ? The Fast n Furious file will disappear along with the emails from Benghazi. You will be able to walk by the EPA office and hear the new regulations being cranked out. The Department of Energy will be pouring money out to the army of crony industrialists. Holder has been here before, remember his role in the Clinton amnesty palooza ?

  8. Albertina

    If Obama wins he’ll use all his presidential power to suppress the facts under guise of investigating them, while clamping down on a restive military, in hopes the story will lose its impact over time.

    There is a lot now part of the official record that could hardly be concealed from a CinC Romney, including the circumstances of General Ham’s just-announced retirement from the Army. The rumor persists, vehemently denied by the Pentagon, that it is fallout from a countermanded attempt to send a rapid response team to the besieged Americans in Benghazi.  (If the facts of Benghazigate are as disgraceful as appears likely, could they be held as some sort of check on the post-election troublemaking of Democrats?)

  9. David Williamson
    Troy Senik, Ed., quoting Mr McCain: 

    “This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It’s either one of them.”

    Or, more likely, both.

    I remain optimistic that Mr Romney will win, and most likely the Senate will become Republican, in which case Mr McCain will most likely hold Senate hearings – I will leave it to the legal scholars as to whether he can call on Mr Obama (under oath)?

    In the unlikely event of Mr Obama being re-elected, I would expect impeachment proceedings, which would hopefully include Mr Biden… I think Mr Boehner is third in line?

    Oh, BTW, if Mr Obama loses, is it too much to hope for an audit of his campaign contributions? It seems only fair.

  10. Israel P.
    flownover:

    You think Mumia will get pardoned ?

    Sirhan Sirhan.

  11. TucsonSean

    McCain is flat wrong.  It is both a massive cover-up and disabling incompetence.

    If Obama gets re-elected the Senate is unlikely to go to the GOP, but even if it did,  there is no way he gets impeached, on this or any other basis.  The GOP got burned on the last justified impeachment,. and will not do it again.  Instead, we will have gridlock and rampant issuance of executive orders and administrative regulations.

  12. Nick Stuart
    Foxman: President Biden? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH · 2 hours ago

    Blue Yeti, this is Exhibits A-Z why we need a “Dislike” button.

     EDIT:  Oops, I need to clarify that I agree with, in fact “Liked” Foxman’s comment. I meant it would be great to have a “dislike” button to emphatically “dislike” the notion of Biden becoming President. I’ve suspected since 2008 that was one reason Obama chose him. That possibility would have to weigh heavily on anyone in congress contemplating impeachment. Apologies to Foxman.

  13. Nick Stuart

    1. Nothing. Total stonewall from the administration. Total blackout from the mainstream media (think Swift Boats). Total unity from the Dems in congress. Total lack of cojones and complete lethargy (hey, there are tee times to meet, restaurants to sample, and junkets to go on) on the part of the Republicans (regardless of majority/minority status).

    2. Nothing. Romney focuses on something else (economy, repeal/replace Obamacare, rebuild military, etc). Total blackout from the mainstream media (think Swift Boats). Total unity from the Dems in congress. Total lack of cojones and complete lethargy (hey, there are tee times to meet, restaurants to sample, and junkets to go on) on the part of the Republicans (regardless of majority/minority status).

  14. Foxman
    Nick Stuart

    Foxman: President Biden? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH · 2 hours ago

    Blue Yeti, this is Exhibits A-Z why we need a “Dislike” button. · 12 hours ago

    ummm. the above was supposed to be a cry of terror.

  15. Nick Stuart
    Foxman

    Nick Stuart

    Foxman: President Biden? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH · 2 hours ago

    Blue Yeti, this is Exhibits A-Z why we need a “Dislike” button. · 12 hours ago

    ummm. the above was supposed to be a cry of terror. · 56 minutes ago

    Foxman, I see your point, what I meant was I wanted to “dislike” the idea of Joe Biden becoming President. I agree with you 100%.

  16. Tom Lindholtz

    Were I am adviser to Romney I would suggest that he address the nation: For the past four years the MSM has abdicated their duty of bringing to light legitimate questions of the party in power.  I have no doubt this is about to change.  Nonetheless, inasmuch as they have utterly failed the American people in this regard, there is a great deal that Americans do not know about Black Panther election intimidation, Fast and Furious gun walking, the failure to support our personnel in Benghazi, and numerous other instances of the previous administrations failure to operate in an open and above board manner.  There are reasons to believe that illegalities and incompetencies were involved in these and many other cases.  but the failure of the MSM means that much of the presumed evidence never came to light.  Right now, however, America has a future to worry about; something more important than issues from the past.  Therefore, like President Ford, before me, I am pardoning President Obama and the officers of his administration in order that we might all begin to work together to re-establish a foundation, a direction, and a momentum for America’s future.

  17. jonsouth

    Ironically, this scandal has far more potential to affect Obama if he wins the election. No new President is going to waste time investigating the wrongdoings of a predecessor (damaging politically and sullies the office itself) which means a Romney administration would only bother with lower-level operators if anyone. 

    If Obama is still president, however, then the story remains ‘juicy’ and at least some media organizations will stay hungry for it. Does anyone think Watergate would’ve been worth pursuing if Nixon had lost in ’72?

  18. Troy Senik, Ed.
    jonsouth: Ironically, this scandal has far more potential to affect Obama if hewins the election. No new President is going to waste time investigating the wrongdoings of a predecessor (damaging politically and sullies the office itself) which means a Romney administration would only bother with lower-level operators if anyone. 

    If Obama is still president, however, then the story remains ‘juicy’ and at least some media organizations will stay hungry for it. Does anyone think Watergate would’ve been worth pursuing if Nixon had lost in ’72? · 29 minutes ago

    Precisely right.

  19. flownover
    Israel P.

    flownover:

    You think Mumia will get pardoned ?

    Sirhan Sirhan. · 4 hours ago

    The first jihadi.

  20. Raw Prawn
    Troy Senik, Ed.: An utterance from the senior Senator from the state of Arizona on the topic of the Benghazi scandal, with which it is difficult to disagree:

    This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces. It’s either one of them.

    It’s easy to disagree.  If Obama was not grossly incompetent he would not need a massive cover-up.  If he was competent he would not attempt to cover-up.

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