In Which Ron Paul Proves What We Already Knew About Him

You may or may not have heard about the controversy regarding a tweet Ron Paul sent out earlier today in response to the murder of Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle:

Chris Kyle’s death seems to confirm that “he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.” Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn’t make sense

After a backlash the tweet …

  1. Scott R

    “A policy of non-violence”? Does he mean that? Is he a full-blown pacifist now? 

    He’ll be correcting himself on that next, probably. 

  2. Leigh

    Honestly, that surprises me (disappointing, too).  I’m not remotely a Ron Paul fan, but I did think of him as having more decency than to respond to someone’s death like that.

    Dangers of the Twitter era: you can send your immediate thoughts around the world, without the moment’s consideration which might cause you to reword, refine, or simply reject them.

  3. Lord Humungus

    He who tweets by the bong is shamed by the bong.

  4. Caroline

    I wonder if Rand Paul agrees with his father? He’s making a play for 2016 and seems to have inherited his father’s supporters (this is based on personal experience in county level party politics).  

  5. tabula rasa

    This kind of statement says quite a bit about Paul’s political philosophy (not only should America never project power abroad, its soldiers are accomplices is some kind of evil) and about Paul as a man (is he a member of the Westboro congregation?).

    DUMB and CRUDE!!

  6. James Of England
    Scott Reusser: “A policy of non-violence”? Does he mean that? Is he a full-blown pacifist now? 

    He’ll be correcting himself on that next, probably.  · 42 minutes ago

    Since he regularly denies that he would leave America militarily defenseless, I have to assume that he thinks that the killers being non-violent would have prevented the murder. If that’s what he’s saying, then I, for one, fully agree with his view.

    This is complicated, though, by his reference to Christ preaching that we shouldn’t have Unconstitutional wars. If anyone can offer a verse of scripture to support the claim that Christ felt that a legislative declaration of war was important, I’d be grateful, but in the meantime I’m forced to believe that he knows Christ preached about it through personal prayer and revelation. If Christ did secretly preach that we should not protect the vulnerable with force, then I guess I’m glad that those words didn’t make the bible.

    Has Rand expressed a view on his father’s position on the poetic justice of murdering our vets?

  7. James Of England
    Caroline: I wonder if Rand Paul agrees with his father? He’s making a play for 2016 and seems to have inherited his father’s supporters (this is based on personal experience in county level party politics).   · 12 minutes ago

    Beat me to it!

  8. Daniel Jeyn

    As a Libertarian who found the “Libertarian Party” to be a sort of strange Mos Eisley Cantina hive of Rawn Pawl scum and villainy, this is just a little on the nose.  Rawn Pawl strikes me lately as more Westboro Bircher in what he blurts out now and again rather than Libertarain.

    I think Libertarianism is the adrenaline shot that is needed to the heart of the Republican party.  This is also why they don’t necessarily work as an alternative to it.  

  9. Fred Cole
    Mothership_Greg: Ron Paul really shouldn’t have given Lew Rockwell his Twitter password. · 9 hours ago

    That sounds correct to me.  I can hear Lew Rockwell’s voice saying those words.  They’re much more callous than you’d typically get from Ron Paul.  It sounds like Lew Rockwell.

  10. Leigh

    It’s a bad day for Ron Paul supporters, it seems.

    Exhibit B: Rep. Justin Amash just accused Sen. John McCain of racism.

    For making fun of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  11. Albert Arthur

    Anyone who’s surprised by this statement obviously didn’t watch any of the primary debates. Paul said similar outrageous things.

  12. Lucy Pevensie
    James Of England

    This is complicated, though, by his reference to Christ preaching that we shouldn’t have Unconstitutional wars. If anyone can offer a verse of scripture to support the claim that Christ felt that a legislative declaration of war was important, I’d be grateful, but in the meantime I’m forced to believe that he knows Christ preached about it through personal prayer and revelation. If Christ did secretly preach that we should not protect the vulnerable with force, then I guess I’m glad that those words didn’t make the bible.

    OK, I know the topic is serious, but you just made me laugh out loud.

  13. Roberto

    There have been times when I have admired Mr. Paul’s principled stances and there have been times when I have despised him.

    This is most definitely the latter. 

  14. Skyler

    A despicable statement. Indefensible. What a pathetic excuse for a man.

  15. Antiphon

    Again, why I can’t get behind I guy that walks into every room letting everyone know that the current, complex situation could be easily solved, or avoided, by a principle that he himself has advocated for some time.

  16. Majestyk

    This is yet another example of how personal pacifism is a fine belief to hold, but pacifism as national policy is a prescription for civilization-level suicide.  And as much as I like them on some issues, “L”ibertarians are unfit to hold national public office, where their views could damage the prestige and stature of the nation.

  17. Brian Clendinen

    See it is crap like this is why I always though he would be dangrous as president. He public profile appears way more libitarian than his real life record is once you get into the details.

    The only thing that really would of made him less dangours of of Tyrant than Obama in many areas is both parties would be against him were with Obama he has his party backing him.

  18. MJBubba

    Bereket Kelile said “What gets me is that this is the guy that the RNC let on the stage during the nomination process.”

    Ron Paul ran as a Republican, and did not desert the party during the general election.  If the Republicans are to have a chance at a national victory, they are going to have to appeal strongly to libertarians.   We need them to see the Republicans as the lesser of two evils by a long shot, so that they will be comfortable voting for the GOP instead of “making a statement” with a wasted vote for the Libertarian Party.   The Republicans cannot carry that strategy out if they do not respect candidates from the libertarian wing of the party.

    And I say this as a true SoCon.

  19. Hartmann von Aue
    Leigh: Honestly, that surprises me (disappointing, too).  I’m not remotely a Ron Paul fan, but I did think of him as having more decency than to respond to someone’s death like that.

    Dangers of the Twitter era: you can send your immediate thoughts around the world, without the moment’s consideration which might cause you to reword, refine, or simply reject them. · 1 hour ago

    I somewhat share your estimation. But on the other hand I have ended exactly two friendships because of politics: One with a disillusioned Republican who turned into an O-bot (sort of like a real-life version of “The Human Replicators”- it was horrifying) and the other with a very nice German couple who turned out to be Paulites.

  20. Paladin

    For a doctor, he is certainly very insensitive about the nature of PTSD and its treatment. Taking combat veterans with PTSD to the firing range makes all kinds of sense: it’s called exposure therapy. Reliving the events that are giving you nightmares and making you constantly jittery in a controlled, safe environment can be very beneficial.

    I’m no psychiatrist or psychologist, but I imagine disassociating the action of firing/hearing gunshots from the memories they triggered could definitely work.

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