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How Intelligent is the Intelligence Community? (Benghazi Edition)

If not for the fact that the Republicans hold the House of Representatives, we’d still be in a complete information shutdown about the circumstances surrounding the assassination of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.

But as the The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee prepares to hold its first hearings about the disaster today, government officials are working overtime to shift blame.

Here’s how the

  1. katievs

    I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats.

  2. Valiuth
    katievs: I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats. · 2 minutes ago

    T he party in power though never benefits from more information getting out about the things that go wrong. 

  3. katievs
    Valiuth

    katievs: I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats. · 2 minutes ago

    T he party in power though never benefits from more information getting out about the things that go wrong.  · 10 minutes ago

    That’s true.  But not all politicians put power above truth.  

  4. Devereaux
    katievs

    Valiuth

    katievs: I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats. · 2 minutes ago

    T he party in power though never benefits from more information getting out about the things that go wrong.  · 10 minutes ago

    That’s true.  But not all politicians put power above truth.   · 4 minutes ago

    Yeah! Name three!

  5. Mel Foil

    One of the early theories (from TheBlaze) was that Stevens was tagging along on a CIA operation–a negotiation with rebels–as the political guarantor of the operation, and as a secure interpreter.

  6. The King Prawn

    So what’s the count on successful terrorist attacks under Obama? I don’t think the underwear bomber and the Times Square count as successful, but it you count Fort Hood as terrorist (because it was) then at least twice we’ve been hit on Obama’s watch.

  7. Devereaux
    Valiuth

    katievs: I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats. · 2 minutes ago

    T he party in power though never benefits from more information getting out about the things that go wrong.  · 18 minutes ago

    That may seem to be true, but never seems to work out that way. Had the party in power spoken out early and honestly often the overall damage would be significantly less. The fear of criticism seems to outweigh good judgement.

  8. Aelreth

    Intel is only as good as the the Officer in Charge that acts on said information.

    If the OIC fails to act on said information they are negligent if that act results in a disaster, a trial would determine if they are criminally negligent.

  9. Devereaux
    The King Prawn: So what’s the count on successful terrorist attacks under Obama? I don’t think the underwear bomber and the Times Square count as successful, but it you count Fort Hood as terrorist (because it was) then at least twice we’ve been hit on Obama’s watch. · 0 minutes ago

    Yes, and Ft. Hood is a clear case of PC getting in the way.

  10. Scott R

    Begun the Obama-Clinton War has.

    If so, this is the end of Obama. Bill Clinton, maybe the only truly effective advocate Obama currently has, will come to the defense of his wife, at which point Obama. Is. Done.

  11. katievs
    Devereaux

    katievs

    Valiuth

    katievs: I don’t think it’s so much an argument for divided government as it’s an argument against corrupt Democrats. · 2 minutes ago

    T he party in power though never benefits from more information getting out about the things that go wrong.  · 10 minutes ago

    That’s true.  But not all politicians put power above truth.   · 4 minutes ago

    Yeah! Name three! · 6 minutes ago

    Okay.  I said it badly.  Let me put it this way: Some politicians really are serious about going after corruption, even in their own party.  Sarah Palin is one, Jim DeMint is another, Rand Paul is another.  Republicans routinely ask members who have disgraced themselves and their office to step down.  Democrats tend to circle the wagons.

  12. tabula rasa

    All I can think of is the scene in Casablanca where the French policeman is “shocked” to know that gambling is taking place at Rick’s (?).

    I am “shocked” that the Obama administration would make up a completely false narrative.  Shocked!!

  13. tabula rasa
    katievs

    Republicans routinely ask members who have disgraced themselves and their office to step down.  Democrats tend to circle the wagons. · 4 minutes ago

    I’m not suggesting that conservatives never create convenient narratives or circle the wagons, but its seems inherent in the leftist mind that, given their “noble ends,” the means (including the worst mendacity) are always OK.

  14. At The Rubicon

    How intelligent in the Intelligence Community?  Actually, there is no way to know. One needs to view intelligence-gathering organizations as circles-within-circles.  Usually within the innermost circle there is a LOT of intelligence and knowledge. It is a culture however where the knowledge is currency, and there is only so much of it in the bank. Spend it wisely. very wisely. The result of that is that not much of value makes it outside the outermost circle.

  15. ConservativeWanderer

    And this is blowing up at just the wrong time for the Gang of Chicago Thugs that have taken over the West Wing.

    Schadenfreude, anyone?

  16. DocJay
    At The Rubicon: How intelligent in the Intelligence Community?  Actually, there is no way to know. One needs to view intelligence-gathering organizations as circles-within-circles.  Usually within the innermost circle there is a LOT of intelligence and knowledge. It is a culture however where the knowledge is currency, and there is only so much of it in the bank. Spend it wisely. very wisely. The result of that is that not much of value makes it outside the outermost circle. · 20 minutes ago

    Many of the data sharing policies during the Bush era have gone as various aspects of our community are now politicized.

    This is a dangerous trend.

  17. Leslie Watkins

    That was never the department’s conclusion . . . Sounds like Hillary’s going all Newspeak on The One.

  18. Jude
    ConservativeWanderer: Schadenfreude, anyone? · 1 hour ago

    I’ll have a shot, on the rocks

  19. liberal jim

    The CIA produced its “memo” because it is led by a political “yes man”.  Who at one point was the GOP’s most popular general.  In order to advance to the higher ranks of DOD or the intelligence community one must become more politician than either general or intelligence officer.   This is demanded by both parties.  The one general who dared raise questions about Iraq was quickly retired.  I bring up this as a demonstration of how corrupt the GOP is.  I assume I need not do the same for the Democrats.  Washington has been almost totally corrupted and neither party has a desire to clean it up. 

  20. Mel Foil
    liberal jim: The CIA produced its “memo” because it is led by a political “yes man”.  Who at one point was the GOP’s most popular general.  In order to advance to the higher ranks of DOD or the intelligence community one must become more politician than either general or intelligence officer.   This is demanded by both parties.  The one general who dared raise questions about Iraq was quickly retired.  I bring up this as a demonstration of how corrupt the GOP is.  I assume I need not do the same for the Democrats.  Washington has been almost totally corrupted and neither party has a desire to clean it up.

    If you know all that, you should be testifying at the Capitol today.

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