How Do You Know Barack Obama Is Getting Desperate?

Well, resorting to playground insults is a sure sign. Winning campaigns have no need whatsoever to make themselves appear childish and ill-mannered.

  1. Lenny Analias

    I have had conversatioms with people who support Obama.   I try to appeal to them with logic.  Many (if not all) can’t defemd their position with logic, so they retreat to emotional arguments.  How do I know this?  Because their discourse is laced with crude and fouur-letter words.Obama calling Romney a Bull******* (CofC) is an indication that his record is indefensible and he is becoming desparate.

  2. Joan of Ark La Tex

    (1) Let’s see, for $5 someone stands a chance to eat with him and his anti -american food wife. 

    (2) Pulling offices out NC and a couple more offices

    (3) continue to smear Romney even when it isn’t working

    (4) promoting tasteless ads like losing virginity to the government 

    (5) still not explaining in full details what happened in Benghazhi

  3. Pig Man

    I am an Obama supporter (ducking to dodge the rotten eggs!).  I agree that resorting to playground insults (and name-calling) means that you have lost the debate.   But do you honestly believe that such tactics are limited to the left?  I have seen plenty of that right here on richochet!  Lenny here are some facts to chew on:

    1.  Osama bin Lade is dead.  Romney said it wasn’t worth moving heaven and earth to get him.

    2.  George W. Bush and the Republicans presided over the worst economic collapse since the great depression.  George W supported the first stimulus package.

    3.  Government spending and the debt are serious problems, but they are not the cause for the slow recovery, which has primarily been a function of a world wide slowdow and a huge housing crash.   

    4.  The unemployment rate is the lower than when Obama took office (although admittedly still way too high).

    5.  Barack and Obama are Americans, born in the USA!  (I know  this is a hard  one for you birthers.)

  4. Knell

    Welcome Pig Man — You have to pay to make comments so I admire your willingness to put yourself out there.  You are correct that people on both ends of the political spectrum engage in shameful behavior and it saddens me.  We here at Ricochet hope to change that one comment at a time.

  5. ConservativeWanderer
    Pig Man: He could still  win, but that would mean he can gets some movement or the polls are garbage.   I don’t think those are good odds. · 6 hours ago

    Most of the polls are garbage. Most of them are overstating how many are likely to vote by 20 points or more.

    Even in Obama’s “historic” victory in 2008 there was only 64% of registered voters actually voting, so any poll that says that 85% or more of registered voters are likely to vote is making completely unreasonable assumptions, and shouldn’t be trusted.

  6. Strategoist

    Pig man, welcome I guess.  Thanks for the money.  Your 5 point plan is simplistic in the extreme, and must be a feint.  You could be a bot, but talking points never describe true voter behavior.  Neither do they best describe a presidential record.  You might as well insist for us all to “Have a Coke and a Smile.”  Sloganeering won’t get you very far here.  Unless you concern troll a Romney loss, posing as a right-winger.  ;)

  7. ConservativeWanderer
    Strategoist:   Unless you concern troll a Romney loss, posing as a right-winger.  ;) · 36 minutes ago

    Don’t give him any ideas.

  8. Strategoist
    ConservativeWanderer

    Strategoist:   Unless you concern troll a Romney loss, posing as a right-winger.  ;) · 36 minutes ago

    Don’t give him any ideas. · 0 minutes ago

    LOL  I retract my previous reference to the concern trolling.

  9. Pig Man

    Hey you guys are alright, I actually feel welcome as a foil and nobody called me something obscene.    And I do agree my points were simplistic and incomplete, I was just throwing them out for a reaction.  But they weren’t just slogans, they were statements of fact, please provide evidence otherwise.   And tell me this, do you guys really think the odds are with Romney for win?   If so I invite to place a bet on intrade, I’ve got got some Romney stock I’d love to short?   Ohio is the key and Romney has not been able to break through on the polls. Do you think the Ohio  polls are liberal biased?  Do you think Romney’s momentum will carry him through the next 10 days.  Get real, Romney is the underdog here.  He could still  win, but that would mean he can gets some movement or the polls are garbage.   I don’t think those are good odds.

  10. Pejman Yousefzadeh
    C

    “Hey you guys are alright, I actually feel welcome as a foil and nobody called me something obscene.”

    Which is more than what anyone can say for the president’s behavior towards Mitt Romney. And hey, anyone remember just how up in arms the Left got when Dick Cheney called Adam Clymer a major league something-or-other and told Pat Leahy to go perform anatomical impossibilities on himself? The silence from those same people when Barack Obama resorts to name-calling is deafening.

  11. Arahant
    Pig Man:  1.  Osama bin Lade is dead.

    Any man who could conceivably be elected President would have given the kill order.  Most would have given it the first time.

    Pig Man:  2.  George W. Bush and the Republicans presided over the worst economic collapse since the great depression.

    George W. Bush made plenty of dumb mistakes.  But the cause of the collapse had more to do with previous market interference starting in the Carter years.

    Pig Man:  3.  Government spending and the debt are serious problems, but they are not the cause for the slow recovery…   

    Uncertainty in markets plays a role.  Employers can’t afford to hire with Obamacare, and we, meaning business owners, are even more worried about a possible second term.

    Pig Man:  4.  The unemployment rate is the lower than when Obama took office (although admittedly still way too high).

    Equal now, through manipulation.  What’s the U6?

    Pig Man:  5.  Barack and Obama are Americans, born in the USA!  (I know  this is a hard  one for you birthers.)

    From what I have gathered, Obama was the first birther.  No wonder it’s confusing for others.

  12. Richard Fulmer
    Pig Man, I agree that Bush had a lot of unfortunate policies but, as I pointed out elsewhere in Ricochet, Obama has doubled-down on all of them.  He has outspent, out-inflated, out-stimulated, out-regulated, and out-golfed W.  It’s ironic that one of Obama’s big applause lines is asking whether we want to go back to the failed policies of the past.  We’ve never left them!
  13. Richard Fulmer

    P.S. Thanks for joining us here on Ricochet.  Helps to have someone from the other team just to spice things up and keep us honest.  Also, thanks for keeping things friendly.  Much appreciated.

  14. flownover
    Pejman Yousefzadeh: “Hey you guys are alright, I actually feel welcome as a foil and nobody called me something obscene.”

    Which is more than what anyone can say for the president’s behavior towards Mitt Romney. And hey, anyone remember just how up in arms the Left got when Dick Cheney called Adam Clymer a major league something-or-other and told Pat Leahy to go perform anatomical impossibilities on himself? The silence from those same people when Barack Obama resorts to name-calling is deafening. · 15 hours ago

    It was Bush to Cheney , commenting on Clymer. Yay George. Although Cheney did serve it nicely to Leahy.

  15. James Of England
    Pig Man: I am an Obama supporter (ducking to dodge the rotten eggs!).  I agree that resorting to playground insults (and name-calling) means that you have lost the debate.   But do you honestly believe that such tactics are limited to the left?  I have seen plenty of that right here on richochet!  Lenny here are some facts to chew on:

    1.  Osama bin Lade is dead.  Romney said it wasn’t worth moving heaven and earth to get him.

    Have you read the interview? Romney was arguing for a bigger and more comprehensive war on terror, not for less. You can find a transcript here. The suggestion that because he wanted “a far more comprehensive strategy than a targeted approach for bin laden or a few of his associates” means that he wouldn’t have given the go ahead on Bin Laden is absurd. Indeed, I’d be surprised if many people really thought that Obama was more of a hawk; it seems more like gotcha gaffe material than a substantive point.

    ….I agree that resorting to playground insults means that you have lost the debate…..

    5…. (I know  this is a hard  one for you birthers.) ·

    No comment.

  16. James Of England
    Pig Man:

    2.  George W. Bush and the Republicans presided over the worst economic collapse since the great depression.  George W supported the first stimulus package.

    Bush 43 was highly concerned to support Obama in everything when he handed over power; there was a crisis, and it would have been easy to have problems with the handover. He’s since remained keen to avoid getting in Obama’s way and becoming a Republican Jimmy Carter. Do people wish he’d been a bit more partisan? Maybe, but I think most folks could understand his exhaustion and his prioritizing of a smooth transition.

    I don’t think “and the Republicans” is accurate; the recession lasted from Q2 2007- Q2 2009, when Congress was controlled by Democrats.

    4.  The unemployment rate is the lower than when Obama took office (although admittedly still way too high).

    The long term unemployment rate is higher than it has been since records began (given the lack of a safety net before records, it may be higher than in North American history). The unemployment rate is down only because people have left the workforce. The proportion of Americans in work is dramatically reduced since the recession ended.

  17. James Of England
    Pig Man:

    3.  Government spending and the debt are serious problems, but they are not the cause for the slow recovery, which has primarily been a function of a world wide slowdow and a huge housing crash.  

    There’s a world wide slowdown? You’ll forgive me, but I spent much of the recession in Iraq, where no such slowdown was obvious. The EU and US are suffering a slowdown, and that has a big effect on the global rate of growth, but even including that, the global rate of GDP growth is estimated by the IMF to have been higher last year than the average for 1990-2003.

    If you want to say that the slowdown hit the EU, as well as the US, you’d be right. If you want to claim that this demonstrated that it wasn’t a big government, big debt problem, I’ll have to introduce you to the European debt crisis and its causes.

    Welcome to Ricochet, btw. Sorry about the responses being out of order. I’d be happy to go into more detail on any issues presented.

  18. Mr. Dart
    Pig Man:  And tell me this, do you guys really think the odds are with Romney for win?   If so I invite to place a bet on intrade, I’ve got got some Romney stock I’d love to short?    · October 26, 2012 at 10:22pm

    Way ahead of you, Pig Man.  I shorted Obama futures at $7.80 on Intrade weeks ago.  I could’ve covered under $6.00 already and made a tidy profit, but I decided I’d stay on to see if the trade settles at zero. I assume you know what selling short and settling a short trade at zero means.

    I guess you won’t be wishing me luck, but a very nice vacation for my family will be paid for if I’m right.

    Welcome aboard and thanks for helping support the site.

  19. Pejman Yousefzadeh
    C

    Quite right. Though Cheney did confirm Bush’s observation with “big time.” 

    flownover

    Pejman Yousefzadeh: “Hey you guys are alright, I actually feel welcome as a foil and nobody called me something obscene.”

    Which is more than what anyone can say for the president’s behavior towards Mitt Romney. And hey, anyone remember just how up in arms the Left got when Dick Cheney called Adam Clymer a major league something-or-other and told Pat Leahy to go perform anatomical impossibilities on himself? The silence from those same people when Barack Obama resorts to name-calling is deafening. · 15 hours ago

    It was Bush to Cheney , commenting on Clymer. Yay George. Although Cheney did serve it nicely to Leahy. · 19 hours ago