First Rule Of Fact-Checking

Oh dear. Politifact issued its Lie of the Year.

PolitiFact has selected Romney’s claim that Barack Obama “sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China” at the cost of American jobs as the 2012 Lie of the Year.

The only problem is that, well, the claim is true. My husband

  1. Merina Smith

    As a general rule of thumb, if Politifact calls it a lie, it’s the truth.  If they call it the truth, it’s a lie. So in a way, they are doing their job.

  2. Fricosis Guy

    Dear Mark,

    Thanks for exposing an even more pathetic fraud than ours.

    Insincerely yours,

    Lance and Manti

    Edited to fix heinous mobile formatting,

  3. Mollie Hemingway

    Politi”Fact” explained that the reason why they didn’t pick Obama’s claim that Romney had murdered a woman as its lie of the year is because the true Jeep ad was “brazenly false.”

    Intriguing.

  4. Steven Jones

    Because Politi”Fact”‘s goal was the reelection of Barack Obama. Mission accomplished.

  5. Jordan Wiegand

    Perhaps I shouldn’t find it odd that an entity called “PolitiFact” deals more with “intentions” and “messages” than route facts, but it still shocks me. 

    They seem to misunderstand what a fact is.  “Overall messages” and “intentions” have nothing to do with facts.  Deception through facts is a different kind of thing than a fact being the case or not, but of course ObamaFact is either incapable or unwilling to communicate these nuances in their journalism read muckraking. 

  6. Garrett Petersen

    The real lie of the year was Obama’s repeatedly saying we need a “balanced approach” to deficit reduction that has to include both spending cuts and tax increases.  We now know that he wants tax increases and spending increases (big surprise!), and that that was his position all along.  The man lied to get elected, and he should be hated for it.

  7. Mollie Hemingway
    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.: Oh dear. Politifact issued its Lie of the Year.

    PolitiFact has selected Romney’s claim that Barack Obama “sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China” at the cost of American jobs as the 2012 Lie of the Year.

    I’m just going to go out on a limb here but if you are unable to put the portion that’s a lie inside of quote marks, you might want to find another “lie of the year.”

  8. Merina Smith

    I have thought all along that there’s hubris in the very idea of fact checking.  There really is no “view from nowhere.” Everyone has biases that show up in how they interpret news and facts.  So-called “fact checkers”  want us to believe that they have no bias and will give us the straight story, but that really isn’t possible.  Instead, they just add another contentious layer to the left-wing bias.  Now, if there were an organization that attempted to point out the exaggerations inherent in almost all political speech and really tried to do this fairly, that WOULD be a service to the nation.  This might be possible if people from both sides of the political spectrum were hired to run such a service.  I wish someone would try. 

  9. tabula rasa

    Is Politifact some kind of new age church?

    The reason I ask:  despite the fact that the Jeep allegation was “the literal truth,” it’s apparently still some kind of metaphysical lie.  

    Now that’s what I call some deep theology.

    Mollie:  As our resident expert on the proper use of the word “literal,” and as a writer on all-things religious, can you help us out?

  10. Cold Friday Warrior

    With such reliability firmly demonstrated, shouldn’t they go the way of the Voter News Servic?

  11. DocJay

    I’m curious if accountability matters to them. May their pens chip and shatter.

  12. Percival
    DocJay: I’m curious if accountability matters to them. May their pens chip and shatter. · 4 minutes ago

    It’s among the things that matter most to them, like consistency, journalistic integrity, and credibility.  Just like the New York Times.

  13. Israel P.
    Merina Smith: I have thought all along that there’s hubris in the very idea of fact checking.  There really is no “view from nowhere.” Everyone has biases that show up in how they interpret news and facts. 

    Sometimes things are actual facts that cannot be considered to be open to interpretation.

    The following are all either  absolutely true or false:

    • Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.

    • George W. Bush won the 2000 election.
    • There was never an Arab nation called Palestine.
    • Walter Duranty’s Pulitzer Prize was based on fraudulent reporting.
    • DDT saves lives – especially in Africa.

    Those are just examples.

  14. James Of England

    The Jeep thing is a farce, but the politifact claim that may have been decisive in the election was their decision, repeated on all major networks and broadsheets, to say that Romney’s claim that Obama was gutting welfare reform was false. This was based on a: the Obama administration’s claim that though they were giving themselves the power to gut welfare, they were going to use it responsibly and b: the fact that one of the most egregious reform gutters, Gov. Sandoval (NV) was a Republican. I don’t know whether the assumption that the administration would never say something with political motives or that no Republicans would never engage in radical liberal buffoonery is more depressing.

    Still, it turned what should have been Romney’s most effective campaign into a devastating loss, particularly amongst poor whites; I was talking to a low information Ohio voter about it yesterday (she didn’t vote as a protest against a non-existent electoral college fraud scheme, but otherwise would have backed Obama over this).

    Incidentally, if anyone knows that the heck Sandoval was thinking, or what the story is behind this letter, I’d be very grateful for the information.

  15. Steven Jones

    “Fake but true” has been firmly enshrined in Progressive doctrine since the publication of I, Rigoberta Menchu. I expect them to cling to falsehood for the forseeable future.

  16. Nick Stuart

    Politifact has established itself as a “fact-checker” of record in the minds of the mainstream media.

    Whether or not it’s pronouncements have any basis in objective reality or not is not the point.

    Whatever they say will be trotted out by the MSM as dispositive of whatever argument they want supported.

    War is Peace. Slavery is Freedom. &tc.

  17. Henry Scanlon

    In the weeks after the Gulf oil spill you’ll recall that a virtual armada of cleanup ships was made to stand off, lacking the official permission needed to come in and help.  As I recall, it had something to do with the crews being non-U.S. (bad) and/or non-union (worse).

    I mentioned this to a liberal acquaintance who said in high dudgeon that this accusation was yet another slander against Obama, that he (my friend) had gone to factcheck.org and they stated unequivocally that it was “false”.  He further suggested that that I should go there and get myself enlightened.

    So I did.  Sure enough, it was labeled false, with the counter “fact” that Obama had denied only one– count ‘em– one permit.  That was it.  Only one denial.  Thus “false”.  Done deal.

    What they didn’t say was that all those ships were completely stymied until they received a permit to enter US waters.  No need to deny a permit, just don’t grant one, which was exactly how they were thwarted. 

    That’s how it works.

    And works, and works, and works…

  18. PJ

    So can we name their choice of a true statement for 2012 “lie of the year” as the 2013 “lie of the year”?

  19. Flapjack

    As Dennis Prager says, being on the Left means never having to say you’re sorry.

  20. Vance Richards

    First rule of fact checking, don’t let facts get in the way of saying what you want to say.

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