Discouraging The Fringe?

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The Goldberg, Long, Podhoretz (GLoP) podcast’s own John Podhoretz was on Morning Joe earlier today to discuss how the GOP will regroup before the next elections. This includes Karl Rove’s and others efforts to “discourage” so-called fringe candidates from running. Discourage? That has a decidedly Soprano-esque ring to it (“Nice campaign you’ve got there…it’d be shame if any thing happened to it.).

We’ll be discussing this on this week’s GLoP Podcast on Friday, but what say you? Should the party elders be deciding what candidates are fit to run or should the Akins and the Murdocks of the world get their shot?

  1. Whiskey Sam

    The great thing about democracy is anyone can be President.  The bad thing about democracy is anyone can be President.  Seems to me we lost races whether our candidates were polished or not.

  2. Erik Larsen

    Excellent commentary.  My belief is still that there should be a “boot camp” for all Republican candidates.  Those who refuse to memorize and repeat basic minimum sensible standardized commentary about “lightning rod issues” should be driven away quietly in the back of a car.  They can then mutter to themselves “I could have been a contender”.  Yeah, but you’re not.

  3. WI Con

    Both sides of the GOP/Conservative spectrum had some ‘clunkers’ these past few elections. The Tea Party didn’t give us McCain or Romney, Whitman or Fiorina but they also gave us Angle, Muordock, Buck and a couple others not ready for prime time.

    While I don’t want or trust the GOP to make these kind of decisions, I’d like some type of ‘smoke filled meeting’ between the local GOP, and the local Americans for Prosperity, the local Club for Growth, the local Tea Party affiliated groups to reduce friendly fire and/or perhaps come up with consensus candidates that can do well.

    We lost a very winnable Senate seat in WI this fall due to infighting and bloodletting on our side.

  4. paulebe

    Beware of central planning – ANY central planning. Especially when it comes to elections. We’re hyper-focusing on two candidates (Mourdock & Akin) who lost winnable races because they didn’t handle a question properly. This is the same logic used to promote gun control after tragedy. The worst time to plan is on the heels of catastrophe. Stiff upper lip and all that. The people will choose and should choose. Plans made in secret have no place in our republic.

  5. mask

    Akin wasn’t the tea party candidate.  Akin was pushed forward by the Democrat during the GOP nomination.  Sure, the tea party has backed some stinkers but so has the establishment.  We’ve run establishment-favored candidates in the past 2 presidential elections.  The establishment-favored candidates have also lost in house and senate and local races as well.  The establishment GOP has a similar philosophy to that of the left:  Our ideas didn’t work last time (or ever) but next time will do the trick.

  6. Albert Arthur

    That guy conveniently left out John Edwards when he said that the 2008 Democrat primaries were full of serious candidates. Not to mention Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, and Al Sharpton. And yes, Barack Obama is nuts.

  7. mask

    The fringe?

    Obama has run up ~6 trillion more in debt.  He’ll add another 4 – 5 in his next term.  We have even bigger deficits coming with the Boomer generation drawing on entitlements (SS is set to collapse in the near-term, Medicare is set to collapse in the middle-term).  

    The Democrat establishment (which has been completely taken over by progressives) doesn’t care because they’ll use the crisis to push for even more government and finally being able to “reasonably” float the “reality” the middle-class will have to pay to make the system “work”.  Practically no one on the left talks about our coming fiscal nightmare (Walter Russel Meade is a notable exception).  Even half-way efforts like those pushed forward by Paul Ryan (which doesn’t even balance the budget in 10 years) were met as the end of civilization.

    The GOP establishment will talk some about the coming catastrophe but their leadership has been sorely lacking.  The GOP establishment seems to be content with things as they are except as a rhetorical way of whipping up support.

    Recognizing reality is apparently a fringe position.

  8. Johnny Dubya

    I have no comment, as I can’t be impartial.  I’m still smarting from Mr. Podhoretz’s calling me a ”Tudor stooge” on Facebook, for my expressing that Richard III got what he deserved.  Humpf.

  9. Astonishing

    You’d think that, by appearing with Joe Scab and a cougaresque plantinum blonde airhead, Podhoretz couldn’t help but look brilliant by comparison, . . .  but, honestly, for me it was cringingly painful to watch.

    Mr. Podhoretz, you should burn that suit because no amount of dry-cleaning will ever get the smell out of it.

  10. Erik Larsen

    Johnny Dubya, you’re an open Plantagenet backer?  (Just a hunch).

  11. Nick Stuart
    Erik Larsen: Excellent commentary.  My belief is still that there should be a “boot camp” for all Republican candidates.  Those who refuse to memorize and repeat basic minimum sensible standardized commentary about “lightning rod issues” should be driven away quietly in the back of a car.  They can then mutter to themselves “I could have been a contender”.  Yeah, but you’re not. · 7 hours ago

    I wouldn’t require them to memorize someone else’s minimum answer, but I would require them to defend their answers to a list of the 20 or so “gotcha” questions they are sure to be asked by the MSM before a “murder board” before the primary if they want any party money for the general.

    Additionally, more helpful than pruning candidates would be to quit allowing debates to be moderated exclusively by Leftist media types.

  12. Franco

    To the  media, there are always extremes. They love and thrive on polarity of any kind. It’s a game for them, and they are in the position of being able to collect revenue from this game while being the self-appointed referrees. 

    Eliminating the fringe will only serve the purpose of revealing the new fringe. Whomever remains on the not-so-far right will be the next target of lefty media mockery and derision.

    The new abnormal.

    Are J-Pod and Rove the nerds who never realized they will be mocked by the kool-kids no matter what they wear or what they do, giving the kool-kids endless pleasure to see them try so hard to be accepted? 

  13. Ross C

    More central planning is exactly what the party needs.  Vee have Vays ov making you concede.