Did God Intend Eartha Kitt To Be Alive?

Despite the mainstream media claim that the culture war is something fought by conservatives, its battles are frequently launched by liberals. I was reading Barack Obama’s Twitter feed last night and it was full of a culture war attack on people who don’t, say, vote three times to keep a form of infanticide legal, as he did. The entire Obama campaign — from the perspective of t…

  1. Hartmann von Aue

    Here’s mine for BHO: “Mr. President, under what circumstances would you have pressured Mrs. Obama into having Malia and Sasha torn limb from limb and throw in the garbage as medical waste?” 

    Follow-up: “How much do you regret not pressuring your wife into aborting your daughters? Only a little or very much?”

    As you can tell, I’m not much for tact on this subject any more. 

  2. Fred Cole

    I liked the other title better, Mollie.

  3. Israel P.

    I wrote the following on another thread:

    “Pro-choice” woman has relations with her husband and the next day is raped by someone of a different race. She really hopes the subsequent pregnancy is from her husband, so she carries the child to term.

    The child is born and is clearly the race of the rapist. Do the Dems think she is allowed to kill the child?

    Isn’t this what Mourdock meant?

  4. katievs

    I know someone who found out late in life that he was adopted and that he had been conceived in rape.  He was an eminent and highly honored judge while he lived.  One of his sons is an ivy league grad and a Catholic priest. That son gave the homily at his father’s funeral, including deeply moving references to the “extraordinarily courageous young woman,” who gave his father birth.  They didn’t know her name, but “we gather, from patterns of ethnic dysfunction, that she was Irish.” :)  There were lots of tears of gratitude and admiration.

    Can’t most voters—even if they don’t go as far as Murdock in his pro-life convictions—see that there are two contrasting visions of life (one beautiful and humane, the other ugly and brutal) at stake in this election?

  5. Hartmann von Aue

    PS- I made exactly your point  in paragraph 6 when responding to the post about Mourdock over on Powerline yesterday. 

  6. Mollie Hemingway
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    Fred Cole: I liked the other title better, Mollie. · 6 minutes ago

    The “10 Questions For Pro-Choice Candidates” one? To be honest, I don’t like either one, but sitting on it wasn’t helping …. Just decided to move on …

    Don’t worry, I’m reading all of those writing tips everyone’s laying down. We need more for how to write a headline (I’m usually quite bad at it, and rarely quite good).

  7. Brandon Shafer

    I like the title as it is.

    Mollie Hemingway, Ed.

    Fred Cole: I liked the other title better, Mollie. · 6 minutes ago

    The “10 Questions For Pro-Choice Candidates” one? To be honest, I don’t like either one, but sitting on it wasn’t helping …. Just decided to move on …

    Don’t worry, I’m reading all of those writing tips everyone’s laying down. We need more for how to write a headline (I’m usually quite bad at it, and rarely quite good). · 1 minute ago

  8. Mollie Hemingway
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    katievs: I know someone who found out late in life that he was adopted and that he had been conceived in rape.

    I was surprised to find out that a Lutheran theologian I read and admire wasn’t just the product of rape but incestuous rape. That personalized the matter for me. What a loss if he’d been killed simply because of those horrific circumstances of his conception.

  9. Leslie Watkins

    Your argument is totally persuasive. It would be marvelous if a national reporter would bring up Kitt or Sheen to the pro-abortion people they interview (pro-choice = pro-abortion, IMO). The problem I have is that I am pro-abortion in terms of public policy. As long as the state is able and willing to kill innocent people (including fetuses) with drones (which I also support, in a kind of sickening way, though it clearly is a form of moral gutlessness), it seems more than a little self-serving for the state to hold an absolutist view of who can kill when it’s an individual woman making the call rather than a removed bureaucratic body. I take the agonizing view of revolutionary writer Mercy Otis Warren (1728–1814), who asserted that true liberty can only be the result of a virtuous citizenry and cannot be managed or maintained through purely institutional manipulation. (American National Biography)

  10. Sister

    To paraphrase Israel P. from above: 

    Pro-life woman has relations with her husband and then is raped by someone of a different race. She really fears that the subsequent pregnancy is from the rapist, yet she carries the child to term. She relinquishes the child for adoption, sight unseen, and learns 30+ years later, that the child was the only child of her long and stable marriage.

    And, that’s my story. God bless both of my mothers! They are terrific women.

  11. KC Mulville

    Well, obviously, the argument starts with the unspoken premise that “he who wills the end wills the means.” Therefore, to say that God intended the result implies that God intended the rape, and not many people are willing to stand behind that.

    It would have been better to argue that no matter how a life is conceived, it’s still a human life and has rights.

  12. Dick from Brooklyn

    Mollie:

    I’m a pro-life Roman Catholic. I have voted that way my entire life and will do so this year. I also love your posts here on Ricochet. Therefore it is with great respect and fondness that I say the following.

    The Mourdock issue is a trap – as evidenced by the Obama campaign’s attempt to ensnare Ryan in it today. We should not take the bait by discussing it two weeks before an election.

    It is also quixotic to expect the media to discuss the issue even-handedly, especially in October/November. 

    I’m not saying we don’t need to win hearts and minds. I am saying that we need to win an election in two weeks so that we can have a greater impact on the issue for the next 4-8 years. 

  13. liberal jim

    This issue reveals the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of most journalists.    I find Mourdock’s position to be both morally and intellectually sound, and while I find Obama’s position disgusting it is an intellectually sound one.  Romney’s position is not however.  If human life and person-hood begins at the moment of conception there is no justification for killing.   Yet you will not hear a journalist on the right or left press him or any other conservative  who hold similar position.  

  14. BTConservative

    Thanks for this post and following comments; they are most instructive in coming up with rational and influential arguments for being pro-life to others who may not understand.  Also, abortion is a huge emotional trauma for women.  I don’t pretend to be an expert, but I’ve talked to enough young women who went through it to know that it haunts for a lifetime.

  15. schafe92

    As for the left’s Biblical literacy, remember that this is the party whose presidential candidate once said that his favorite verse was John 16:3, and nobody on his campaign even noticed.

  16. Nick Stuart

    Beautifully written, thank you Mollie.

    I’m opposed to abortion for any reason (if the mother’s health is in danger, all possible skill should be used to save the life of both, if in consequence of saving the mother’s life the baby dies, it is a regrettable consequence of life in a fallen world).

    If one of my daughters were raped, I would do what I could to encourage and support her carrying the baby to term. Rape is something done to the woman that is outside of her control, abortion is something the woman does to the child, and is a decision that carries consequences.

    If I were a politician running for office, I would hold the “rape, incest, life of the mother” exception simply because by and large people’s hearts are so hard and intellects so seared that many seem incapable of working through the moral reasoning required to understand that death is never the answer to an unwanted pregnancy however it began.

    (to be continued)

  17. Nick Stuart

    Pro-life politicians, and conservative politicians are too naive to deserve election if they don’t KNOW they’re going to be hit with the MSM’s “gotcha” questions and haven’t PREPARED AND PRACTICED answering them. This is just basic Campaign 101 “blocking and tackling” that we should expect our candidates to be able to master.

  18. Western Chauvinist

    Mollie, would you please call Dennis Prager? He needs your input on this. 1-8-PRAGER-776. He seems to be completely missing this:

    Have these folks really never heard of the story of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection? Have they really never read the Book of Job? Have they really not read Genesis 50:20: 

    But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.

  19. Vance Richards

    The Left doesn’t get the whole “life” argument. In their view we are prudes that want to make them pay for having sex by forcing them to have a baby they don’t want. So, since rape is not the woman’s fault, then she shouldn’t be *punished.

    Rape is horrific. For some, the child could be a reminder of that painful act. I understand this is a different circumstance, but does the Left understand that a child is still a child no matter how the were concieved?

    *Punished is the word Obama use to describe a potential grandchild. “I don’t want them punished with a baby”

  20. Mr. Dart

    Your referencing of Hollywood figures caused me to think about a big movie star who, while quite liberal in his politics, breaks ranks with his pals on the issue of abortion. 

    Jack Nicholson found out in his mid-30′s that the woman he thought was his sister was actually his mother and that his “parents” were actually his grandparents.  Further, his birth mother was never sure who Jack’s father was.  He’s certain that, had abortion been easily available to his mother June, he would never have been born. 

    To that point Jack Nicholson says, “I’m very contra (my friends) in terms of abortion because I’m positively against it.  I don’t have the right to any other view.  My only emotion is gratitude, literally, for my life.”

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