MSNBC does not claim to be "news" organization.    Everybody on the left and right knows most of the commentators (except Joe Scarborough) are progressives, they don't hide that fact.  This is how Fox "News" is so different, it actually claims to be a "fair and balanced" news organization when everybody knows it is dominated by conservatives.

That was funny, great farce on stereotypes .

True...  been working too...  Hope you all get to break away from work or whatever keeps you away from family.

I did some research and Bach probably didn't write it.  But it gives me the spooks (adrenaline rush) every time I hear it.

Thanks for the nice post Red!

Do you seriously think that is how most progressives in this country think?  That would be funny if it weren't scary.   

Greg, I just realized you are still up, way to hang in there.  I'm sorry this thread has strayed from the original topic, but I am having an interesting conversation with you. To answer the first question above, I actually don't remember this, but it does sound like a nutty idea.  I'm not a big fan of Pelosi.

I hadn't heard the one about the 10 million Latino suppression either, that sounds wacky too.  Maybe they were counting all unregistered Latinos.  Reference?

For some people, yes.  In California the first time someone registers and votes, they need to  provide a picture ID and signature.   For later voting no ID is required but voters sign their name on a list.  The signatures are double-checked with the registration signature.   I don't recall anyone ever trying to forge a signature.  This method works fine and no IDs are  needed after the first time.

 There are US citizens who have great difficulty obtaining a current picture ID.  Some people can't afford the transportation required to go to the DMV or town office.   Some people have kids or parents they need to take care of or are infirm and can't get out to the ID office.   These folks may be at the bottom rung of our society, but they have a right to vote like the rest of us.

Of course it is not as bad as Jim Crow, but no one should have to wait in line for hours to vote. 

What?  Where's the reference here?

Great idea Wanderer.   Many of these brave heroes and their families have paid a brutal price (sometimes the ultimate price)  for their service to our country and deserve all the help we can spare.  This is an issue all of us can agree on.

Do you believe Carl Rove, when he says the Obama campaign suppressed Romney supporters?

Absolutely, the evidence is overwhelming that the GOP tried to limit access to the polls in many minority districts by requiring new ID laws and limiting early voting.   Do you honestly think that these efforts were to prevent "voter fraud" of which there is no credible evidence?  Did you not see those long lines of minorities waiting hours to vote?  They were very angry with the voter suppression efforts and came out by the millions to counteract that attempt.  And you are correct there was no evidence in the election results that this is succeeded because by arousing the anger of the minority voters,  it backfired and failed horribly for the GOP.   You may deny voter suppression but you cannot deny that it was perceived this way by minorities.

Yes.  MSNBC  and other left leaning sources are often biased and deserve to be ignored by the main streamers when they make unsubstantiated claims.  Just as unsubstantiated claims by the right, such as the article you quote,  deserve to be ignored.   I don't see any evidence of a cover-up, corruption or political favoritism in the emails.   This is a non-story, get used to it.

Then you are also lazy and stupid also because that is exactly what you are doing with respect to main stream media.   When I pointed out a clear instance of when the main stream media was correct and Breitbart et al were incorrect, you of course chose to ignore this example and instead  point to your conservative echo chamber sources as proof the main stream media is liberal biased.  In the case of the election results, the conservative echo chamber was totally wrong.  You of course will not address this because it goes against your notion that everything in the main stream media is biased.   I ask you again who was deluded into thinking Romney would  win?  The main stream media or the "solid" conservative reporters?

My official title is "Research Professor" and my job is to perform scientific research and perform instruction to US Navy Officers.   I don't claim this gives me any special expertise on political matters, but it would be incorrect to imply that I am only a "self-proclaimed" scientist.    Get your facts straight before making false statements.