We may be unsophisticated, but we aren't stupid. · 1 hour ago
The CBO reckoned that in fifteen years time under the Ryan Plan, which was slightly less radical than Mitt's proposals, but essentially similar, we'd have a substantial surplus. In fifteen years time under Obama, the CBO, with the same assumptions, reckoned we'd have the federal government go bankrupt. I guess you''d have to be pretty darn sophisticated to see a difference between those two outcomes. · 3 minutes ago
The entire country going bankrupt is a very small price to pay for not undergoing the indignity of voting for a candidate that isn't 100% up to your standards on every single issue.
Romney won the nomination, and while he was few people's first choice, he was essentially the compromise candidate for the Republicans. Some Republicans decided to take their ball and stay home, and thus Obama became the compromise Republican candidate.
Keep in mind how much things have changed since Reagan's days. I'm not making excuses for people not taking time to understand actual arguments and concepts, but maybe they have actual evidence that voters tune out everything after the first couple of sentences, and the only way to get through to them is with very short sentences with easy words.
Peter Fee: I want to add something about why I say Ryan and Romney only uttered slogans. They explained nothing. Reagan could and did explain. ...with concrete examples. Often he was criticized for using anecdotes, but it was an effective way to argue and explain. Concreteness, Ladies an dGentlemen. The use of slogans is so insulting. Who do they think would go for this? · 18 minutes ago
Maybe over the next four years, it will dawn on those "unsophisticated" voters that there was a big difference between the two. If energy prices continue to skyrocket, if employers cut back due the piling on of more regulation and mandates, if churches are required to do things that violate their faith, they will probably notice. And if they are somehow surprised, then "stupid" isn't too harsh of a term, because these items were all part of Obama's platform.
The fact that Obama's overt hostility to rural and suburban whites didn't get them out to vote is sad, and somehow I think that they will soon come to regret staying home, even though Romney wasn't their dreamboat candidate.
Gus Marvinson: What this tells me is that we "unsophisticated" folks (thoughI did vote) didn't see a substantial difference between the two tickets, no matter how much the pundit class and GOP talking heads tried to convince us there was one. Give us a real conservative with a record of getting things done and we will vote for him. In droves.
We may be unsophisticated, but we aren't stupid. · 1 hour ago
Re: Rural Whites Didn't Show Up
James Of England
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Gus Marvinson: What this tells me is that we
We may be unsophisticated, but we aren't stupid. · 1 hour ago
The CBO reckoned that in fifteen years time under the Ryan Plan, which was slightly less radical than Mitt's proposals, but essentially similar, we'd have a substantial surplus. In fifteen years time under Obama, the CBO, with the same assumptions, reckoned we'd have the federal government go bankrupt. I guess you''d have to be pretty darn sophisticated to see a difference between those two outcomes. · 3 minutes ago
The entire country going bankrupt is a very small price to pay for not undergoing the indignity of voting for a candidate that isn't 100% up to your standards on every single issue.
Romney won the nomination, and while he was few people's first choice, he was essentially the compromise candidate for the Republicans. Some Republicans decided to take their ball and stay home, and thus Obama became the compromise Republican candidate.
Good game.