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Hey Ryan, another great read!

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Tom Meyer

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I think you are missing the fact that most Pro-Life folks do not believe in playing God, and you appear to want to use your arguments to label Pro-Life people hypocrites.

Preventing natural causes of death is "playing God"?

Hey Sir, I'm not saying that. I think there has been a lot of research done on helping babies survive. They even operate on babies in the womb. But, with the technology we have, there are limitations. There is research ongoing trying to save children. You appear to think that Pro-Life forces are not a part of those efforts. 

I stand by my statement that you are trying everything to make Pro-Life people sound like hypocrites. 

What is your problem with them?

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Tom Meyer:  . . .

  1. Pro-lifers argue that newly-fertilized embryos are of equal moral worth to human life at all other stages.
  2. Pro-lifers -- at least as much as everyone else -- believe in funding medical research to decrease mortality.
  3. HOWEVER, pro-lifers express relatively little interest in discovering ways to mitigate the astronomically high fetal mortality rates in early-stage pregnancy.

Assuming those three are correct, this implies one of the following must be true:

  1. When push-comes-to-shove, pro-lifers do not actually believe that all life is equally precious.;
  2.  . . . 
  3.  . . .

Have I missed something? · 1 hour ago

Edited 1 hour ago

I think you are missing the fact that most Pro-Life folks do not believe in playing God, and you appear to want to use your arguments to label Pro-Life people hypocrites.

Asside from common-sense rest, healthy nutrition, etc., what would you have done to eliminate the possibility of mis-carriage?

Life does have risks.

Also, in your first list, #3 bothers me. How do you know that?

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Molly, I don't know if you've ever read on Mises.org, but a certain Dr. Walter Block has a theory he defends called "Evictionism."

Here is a link to an article

Here is his paper on the subject

I think in the light of the Gosnell story, this might be an interesting discussion.

Basically, if:

  • a baby can exist outside of the womb, and
  • sombody will accept the care of the child, then
  • society should put in place means to let those children live.

In other words, instead of a Gosnell trying to kill late-term babies, the babies should be born-alive and cared for, with the mother giving up parental rights.

Possibly a way to take a theory into reality.

Peace.

Edited on May 20, 2013 at 8:07pm
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Nice!

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If panic is to cartridges as conspiracy is to (IRS, AP, Benghazi, etc. ) . . . 

Maybe it's not panic, just preparation . . .

:-)

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"But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth." James 3:14

We all need to live lives of introspection.

The lie usually starts by lying to ourselves. 

Great post. I'm right there with you.

Keith Bruzelius

Wal-Mart has 5.56/.223 for like $7 if you can use steel cased, and brass Winchester 5.56 at $12.27

Local Gun store here has quite a bit of .223/5.56 for 10-$12 per 20.
(He also said he should be getting in small pistol primers, soon)

I imagine the Cabela's and Mills Fleet Farms will be catching up, too.

Southern MN

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One thing that most of us libertarians should agree on is that the Federal Gov't has become a massive 2-headed Leviathan, with the Republicans and Democrats representing the 2 heads.

It does seem important to notice that Republican and Democrat is not the same as Conservative and Liberal.

I think Conservatives and Liberals both lose their religion when they join Leviathan.

This I feel is a large part of the Conservative and libertarian divide here on Ricochet. I, as a libertarian, feel that a lot of the Conservatives are too trusting or supportive of Big Government. They seem to have lost their small government, Constitutional Republic ideals.

Obama is just a back-slidden Socialist. He succumbed to the lure of Leviathan.

One way to think of it.

Keith Bruzelius

Fred Cole

Spin: Fred, do you know anyone who's a heroin addict?  Heroin should be illegal.  

The fact that you are so deflated by this is just...irritating.  Like Mollie says, get some perspective.   · 5 minutes ago

But he wasn't talking about heroin specifically and didn't name it.

He mentioned marijuana by name.

Look, you can make a case for heroin prohibition.  Fine.  It's nasty, nasty stuff.  I don't agree, but I can see how it makes sense.

But marijuana prohibition is different.  Even Pat Robertson is against pot prohibition. · 9 hours ago

Pat Robertson is pretty much equal to Alex Jones . . .

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I'm sorry, you need to get a special permit to post this kind of stuff.

John Walker has been granted the Ricochet Monopoly on Cosmic Architecture and Quarks.

:-)

Edited on May 15, 2013 at 5:14am
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Fred Cole

Randy Weivoda: OK, so Rand Paul won't be leading the charge to decriminalize marijuana.  But if the movement gained a lot of support in Congress, to the point that legislation passed in both houses, does anybody think that President Paul would veto it?  If RP were president, would he have federal officers cracking down on medical marijuana facilities that are legal under state law, as the current administration does?  He's not a hard-core libertarian but he'd be so much better than any president any of us have personally experienced. · 8 minutes ago

Your point is not without its merit. · 9 hours ago

You're a sly one, Mr Fred . . .

:-)

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Majestyk: So what you're trying to say is... he has ambitions to be something other than a carnival barker or circus freakshow should he run for national office?

I'm more inclined to give him a look now as I see that he has a practical side and isn't a rigid, dogmatic idealogue. · 8 hours ago

Fred's Reverse Psychology is working!!

:-)

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Who else would investigate ACORN?

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Have you considered the possibility that you're already too smart for your own britches?

Peace :-)

Keith Bruzelius

The quote above is very out of context. I googled it and read it within the paragraph and the next, in context.

The libertarian beliefs most hold in the US, represented by Reason, CATO, Mises.org, etc., are not what Mr Chesterton is criticizing. They might be what Mr. Shaw was espousing, but I think "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (the Golden Rule) is a perfect starting point for true libertarian ideals. 

An earlier quote, criticizing Mr Shaw: "It was, in brief, that conservative ideals were bad, not because They were conservative, but because they were ideals. Every ideal prevented men from judging justly the particular case; every moral generalization oppressed the individual; the golden rule was there was no golden rule."

One of the main criticisms of Ron Paul, is that he holds too fast to his ideals.

So, I call BS for a quote out of context and not understanding modern libertarianism.

Peace.

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