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Alainnah Robertson, Toronto, Canada: Born in Kinlochleven, Scotland, brought up Church of Scotland. Ordained Elder, Presbyterian Church of Canada. Nowadays spiritual, not an adherent of any religious system. Proud Canadian.

Retired Business Owner. Lived in Scotland; on Anglo-American mines, Copper Belt, Northern Rhodesia/Zambia; Stewart BC, Vancouver, Edmonton, presently Toronto, Canada.

Passions: History, comparative religion, comparative politics, philosophy, psychology, physics, etc.

Love: Running, swimming, cycling, golf, cross-country skiing, daily exercise program, etc.

Follow: Cinema, music, art, you name it.

Really LIKE to have discussions with friends in coffee shops, and to laugh!

Presently on an intellectual quest to understand American Politics, and Americans. This involves studying the ideologies of the Conservative Right including Libertarians, and the Progressive Left. 

Email: alainnah.robertson@gmail.com

Motto: "An unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates, Greek philosopher in Athens, Ancient Greece, (469-399 BCE) As quoted by Plato in Dialogues: Apology 38a.


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Zafar: Red - I have been thinking about why the question 'Is Islam equal to Christianity' makes me so uncomfortable when I really don't have a philosophical or religious axe to grind wrt Islam or Sharia.

Here are some questions for you:

Is it possible to compare the two ideologies in such a manner without implying the question:

"Are Muslims equal to Christians?"

Is the answer dependant on whether Islam is equal to Christianity or not?

If Christianity is intrinsically better that Islam, are Christians intrinsically better than Muslims?  Developing that, would this logic mean that Presbyterians are intrinsically superior to Catholics? (Or vice versa.) · 7 hours ago

Great questions, Zafar! I am just on my way out to beat up my Bridge group, so don't have time to answer them properly. Will do so when I get back. :-) 

Wish me luck at Bridge! We play social Bridge therefore much depends on the cards, and partners, one gets. Sometimes I do actually win, if the Force has been with me. :-)

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Devereaux: All the above.

In addition, we tend to view islam through western liberal civilization eyes. Thus we speak of "moderates" and "radicals". In truth, islaam has no such distinctions.

Yes, there are "secular" muslims, but all that means is that they look at their nation as islaamic, and others as enemy. The basic tenants of islaam are those of a combat religion bent on conquering and dominating all before it.

There can never be peace between islaam and ANY other religion, not just Christianity. · 1 hour ago

It is so comforting to find that others have the same concerns as I do about Islam. 

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Edward Smith: No.

Christianity is built around a Saviour    ...

He did not preach the use of Duplicity in the pursuit of Worldly Power & Domination, and he did not need to state that "in Christianity there is no compulsion" because He lived that life, letting those who were not interested in the Kingdom of Heaven free to pursue their empty and futile lives unhindered.

Islam has in the Mecca half of Mohammed's life the seed of a reasonable simulacrum of Christianity, and can hope to be a reasonably faithful and useful copy of it. · 1 hour ago

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Agreed, Edward, Muhammad is nothing like Jesus of Nazareth. 

Muhammad was a warrior, and unfortunately, the post-Mecca part of his life seems the most influential.

 Many Muslims, I suspect, haven't read the Qur'an, and without the injunctions to kill the infidel and apostate, the beliefs are similar to Judaism and Christianity. The three religious systems are all from the same source of the Semitic people.  

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Richard Fulmer: Islam is accorded the same rights as is any other religion in the United States, if that is what you mean by "equal."  Islam, however, is demanding far more than that; Islam is an entire way of life that dictates not only its adherents' relationship to God, but their relationship to each other and to the state as well.  In addition, Islam dictates the relationship between "believers" and "infidels."  Such dictates are not compatible with the Western understanding of freedom.  No nation can become Islamic and remain free.  · 2 hours ago

Edited 2 hours ago

It does my heart good to hear you give this discerning analysis, Richard.

All I ever say to people is suggest that they ought to read the Qur'an for themselves, and even that is enough to have me branded as suffering from Islamophobia. 

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Simon Templar: One is satanic and the other one is not. · 2 hours ago

That is one view point, Simon!

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Donald Todd: Is Christianity equal to Islam in Saudi Arabia?  The Sudan?  In Egypt?  About anywhere in the Middle East except for Israel? · 3 hours ago

We all know the answer to that question, Donald! 

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EThompson: Red, I continue to quote my main source on all such matters, Ayaan Hirsi Ali: "The word Islam translates into English as 'submission' and that alone makes it incompatible with Western Civilization." · 3 hours ago

I also follow Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ET. She is such a courageous person. Her writings are so enlightening. And Islam, I agree, it totally incompatible with Western Civilization.

I wish more people would just read the Qur'an for themselves. It is the Holy Book of Islam, and Muhammad's words directly from Allah, and his example, have to be followed by true Muslims. Scary!

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doc molloy: I used to be an Islamist gives an idea about Islam in Germany. 

"But I am becoming more frightened when I see what is happening in Germany today. ...

At workshops I hear complaints from the parents of German converts, who say that their children refuse to celebrate their birthdays  as they call it haram or impure and at Christmas and Easter time they don’t want to have anything to do with the family." · 2 hours ago

This is definitely frightening! If Islam were like Christianity, teaching love your neighbour, it wouldn't be so scary, but, of course, that is not what it teaches.

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I am a Trekkie, and just love anything about Star Trek. I can't be too objective about it. I LOVED this new Star Trek into Darkness. I viewed it the day it was opened in Toronto, right slap-bang, in the middle seats in the middle row of the Imax Cineplex, downtown. 

The latest cast is perfect, especially Spock, whom I particularly LOVE, and Captain Kirk. I LOVE the story line, I LOVE Khan, I LOVE all the special effects. It was fabulous feeling right in the middle of all the action.   

As you can see, my little girl had a great time! This was the BEST Star Trek ever! My little girl can hardly wait for the sequel. :-)

My husband said he really enjoyed seeing the movie with me. It's not really his "thing", but he came along to please me, and let his little boy out to play. Such fun!

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Joseph Stanko

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What I call my brain threw it up one day as I was pondering the different social construction of the Church of Rome and the Church of Scotland.John Knox set up the C of S as a democracy, and it is still ruled from the ground up, as it were.

I agree with you there.

The Catholic Church is a monarchy, and our King is Jesus Christ.  We're definitely ruled from the top down. · 4 hours ago

Fascinating the different way people look things!

The Head of the Church of Scotland is Jesus Christ, but everyone has access to Him, and is individually guided by him, no one more so than another. The congregation is a communion of saints, and everyone is equal to everyone else. No one rules, everyone ministers to everyone else, as equals. This has produced a particularly individualistic, self-directed, but friendly, helpful people, as anyone who has come into contact with Scots may have observed. :-)

 I always think the big question is, did the people mold their belief system to suit themselves, or did the belief system mold them? 

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Snirtler

Indaba:

Catholics, I sure hope you are speaking with your priests this weekend and getting them to send a letter to the Pope. 

Very worrying.

Severely Ltd.#273

Do any Catholics here feel any obligation to tell your priest ... [o]r write a letter to a bishop? Is that a ridiculous gesture from a Catholic's point of view?

Would it comfort you to hear most Catholics probably don't know about the speech? I think a sad reality of the Church is many don't actually know her doctrines. Many Catholics go on their merry way ill-informed about the news and unformed in doctrine.    ...

Och, this applies to most people in all religious worlds, Snirtler! I've had Hindus tell me I know more about their Classical Vedanta foundation than they do. Muslims, the same thing, because no one reads their original literature, whereas I have. Most people are too busy with life to bother with the fundamental beliefs of their religious systems.

This, to me, is the joy of Ricochet. As you say, we are self-selected by the fact that we love to debate, and can find others so inclined here. 

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James Of England

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...   Jews considered the early Christians a sect of Judaism. ...

I think that this is true. ...

Thanks, James, I probably did extend my very general remark too far in time, but I still think of Christianity as an off-shoot of Judaism. There probably are Jews today who still think, also, of Christianity as an off-shoot of Judaism. I don't know if there are, but it would seem to me they would be right to do so. After all, we do talk of the Judeo-Christian roots to Western civilization. :-)

I love your reference to Trudeau. I have just discovered that there was, indeed, a belief that the North American First Nations were the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. Fascinating what people believe!

It was the British Israelites who fell over backwards to claim to be descendants of those same Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. My mother was very interested in that theory, and I still remember her telling me about it.

We have wandered far, far away from the Pope "giving the financial world 'what for'!" :-) 

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Jeff

This is true of the Church of Rome but not of the Church. The Orthodox have never had a hierarchy like that of Rome.   ...

Not all Catholics are Roman. The Church is not the Latin church. 

Talking of hierarchies, I was speaking only of the Church of Rome, Jeff! 

I, too, understand The Christian Church to mean the universal, catholic church. Part of the Apostles' Creed which is recited during Communion, speaks of belief in the catholic church, meaning the universal church. 

I know very little about the Orthodox Church and find it interesting that it is not organized in the same fashion as the Church of Rome. 

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Douglas

You know, my Christology right now is more or less trending Arian. If anyone should have a reason to rip Catholicism, it should be me. And yet I tell you that despite my differences with Catholicism on doctrine, it's been a huge force of good in the world. Even if you're an atheist, you have to recognize what a civilizing force it's been. Which is why I don't get some of the Daily Kos-caliber Catholic bashing we see here frequently. · 12 hours ag
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This is so true, Douglas! The Christian Church, as a whole, has been a hugely civilizing force in the world, bringing education, healing, comfort to many. In spite of the bigotry of the Church of Scotland, I am grateful to it for the foundation it gave me on which to base my life. 

On the other hand, I couldn't wait to leave Scotland, and move out to the wilds of Africa where religion hadn't the same hold on ordinary life. It had been stifling! 

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Joseph Stanko

James Of England

I agree that Joseph's record is impeccable.

You're not just trying to win me over to your side by flattery now, are you? · 16 hours ago

Whatever gave you that idea, Joseph! :-)

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St. Salieri: Um Red Feline...I don't know where you base your understanding of church history on, ...

You are probably quite right about my version of history of the Church of Scotland being a Sunday School pamphlet from the early 1900s. That was the version I was given, and when I was a child, one didn't question the source. 

This article about the Scottish Reformation gives the flavour of Scottish thinking.

This quote from Wikipedia is basically the version of history I learned:

On 1 August, the Scottish Parliament met to settle religious issues. Knox and five other ministers were called upon to draw up a new confession of faith. Within four days, the Scots Confession was presented to Parliament, voted upon, and approved. A week later, the Parliament passed three acts in one day: the first abolished the jurisdiction of the Pope in Scotland, the second condemned all doctrine and practice contrary to the reformed faith, and the third forbade the celebration of Mass in Scotland. Before the dissolution of Parliament, Knox and the other ministers were given the task of organising the newly reformed church or the Kirk.

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