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Mothership_Greg: I recommend reading Sharyl Attkisson's latest

That is a good article but seems too willing to accept the "early confusion" explanation.

I don't think it's an investigative reporter's job to draw the conclusions for us.  She reports what the nameless officials have said; we decide.

Not looking for conclusions; looking for the relevant facts in context.  In one instance she quotes someone as saying they avoided characterizing the attacks as terrorism out of "an abundance of caution."  Said caution did not stop them from blaming the attacks on the video, a pertinent and known fact that would help us decide how believable they were.  She says it's unclear where the video story came from, but does not say why it's unclear (I presume it's because no one in a position to know, will say.)  Perhaps she is trying to preserve a relationship with her nameless sources by not directly discrediting their statements. 

I encourage you to poke your head into the Leftwing fever swamps; it will assure you that Attkisson is doing a good job.  Her reporting on F & F was unrivaled in the MSM.

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Mothership_Greg: I recommend reading Sharyl Attkisson's latest, if y'all haven't.  

That is a good article but seems too willing to accept the "early confusion" explanation.  As TP outlines in the post above, that is just not credible.

TP does a great job with the early days which I am too lazy to emulate with the later ones.  But I recall that two-three weeks after 9/11/13, long after anyone could claim "early confusion", the President was still blaming the video at the UN, on David Letterman and The View, and on
Univision.  It was clear if you were paying a little attention as, say, the New York Times was not, that the president of Libya was telling us the truth while our President was lying to us.  I found it stunning at the time.  I actually did not think President Obama would handle an attack on America that weakly and dishonestly. · 2 hours ago

I don't think it's an investigative reporter's job to draw the conclusions for us.  She reports what the nameless officials have said; we decide.

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I recommend reading Sharyl Attkisson's latest, if y'all haven't.  There are lots of pull quotes, but these are my favorite:

"We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."

However, absent the CSG's collective advice, there's evidence that some high-level decision makers were unaware of all available resources. In October, on a phone call that included then-Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough (now White House Chief of Staff), Vietor initially told CBS News: "I don't know what [FEST] is... it sounds antiquated."

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"Sir, I'm taking Vice President Biden's place today.  I hope he enjoys his day off at the petting zoo."

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Meh, stuff like this goes on all the time during hearings.  I'd have to watch what happened before this little tiff to get the context.  It's sad that people will watch a 2 minute clip and come forth with all sorts of conclusions.  But you can take my word, as someone who watched/listened to most of one of the House hearings on F & F, and watched/listened to most of the recent House hearing on Benghazi:

The media does a terrible job of reporting on these things, because doing a good job requires a lot of background work, and a long attention span.  Mix in a bit of True Believer that most of our press corpse have, and voila, you have a recipe for playing up what doesn't matter and amplifying the insignificant.

Re: Srsly?

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Noam Scheiber's spin on the IRS scandal in the New Republic, as discussed here, might perhaps be even better than Toobin's.  As a bonus at the link, you'll see another excellent point regarding the famous Legal Analyst's claptrap.

Bottom line: The Leftists writing these defenses aren't the least bit interested in the actual facts of what happened.

Stefano said she tried to start her own group called The Loyal Opposition between 2010-2011. But when she applied for tax exempt status, the IRS responded with a litany of questions that put her off.

“I was pregnant and on a single income and they were asking me questions like, ‘Are you on Facebook,” she said incredulously. “They wanted my personal Facebook page.”

“A lawyer told me, ‘They’re going to come after you and if you make one mistake they could ruin your life’,” Stefano added. “I like to think of myself as very tough, but I’m ashamed to say I was intimidated and frightened, and I shut it down.”

But remember:

A handful of I.R.S. employees saw this and tried, in a small way, to impose some small sense of order.

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Excellent analysis.

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Famous right-wing nutjob Dana Milbank:

But there would be more sympathy, and support, for Holder if he took seriously the lawmakers’ legitimate questions about his department’s abuse of power in the AP case. He may have recused himself from the leak probe that led to the searches of reporters’ phone records (a decision he took so lightly that he didn’t put it in writing), but he isn’t recused from defending the First Amendment.

Didn’t the deputy attorney general who approved the subpoenas have the same potential conflict of interest that Holder claimed?

“I don’t know.”

When did Holder recuse himself?

“I’m not sure.”

How much time was spent exploring alternatives to the subpoenas?

“I don’t know, because, as I said, I recused myself.”

But when the Justice Department undermines the Constitution, recusal is no excuse.

Re: Srsly?

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Mendel: I actually think it is worth acknowledging that some super-PACs might have been trying to obtain non-profit status while engaging in political activism.  After all, those tax laws were democratically enacted.

Pretty much everyone has acknowledged this.  It's a statement of the obvious.

A handful of I.R.S. employees saw this and tried, in a small way, to impose some small sense of order. For that, they’ll likely be ushered into bureaucratic oblivion.

That, however, is something else.

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Eh, I think all steps should involve mentioning Bush.  I'm waiting for the Democrats to go full moonbat Internet commenter and start frothing at the mouth about how, in comparison to the millions of babies that Halliburton slaughtered in Iraq at the command of Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz, what difference do any of these so-called "scandals" make?  Pelosi is already pretty much at this level, but the press studiously ignores her less, shall we say, coherent statements.

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Hey, not talking about it is the second stage of bigotry.  We know your trickses, precious.

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Fredösphere: I have to be careful. David Brooks is a smart guy and makes some good points sometimes. But when he resorts to his usual "moderate" ticks, my blood starts boiling.

The most ridiculous tick is whenever he invests a precious paragraph or two in a column to remind us how hard-working and conscientious government bureaucrats are, and how unfair is the reflexive conservative distrust of such people. I guess now, with the news from the IRS, we're learning that a conservative has to be pretty paranoid indeed to be more suspicious than is warranted. · 6 hours ago

Yep, nailed it.  Those of us who deal with the output of government bureaucrats (albeit indirectly in my case) know just how feckless they are.  That's what happens when people have lots of power and little accountability, which is the current way of the world wrt federal government.

I remember the "no scandals" comment, and my jaw still aches.  You can't expect a genius like Brooks to spend time visiting websites like cleanupatf.org or waronguns.blogspot.com, though, so we'll just have to let the bruxism take its natural course.

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The AP piece also begins with:

The seasoned diplomat who penned a highly critical report on security at a U.S. outpost in Benghazi, Libya, defended his scathing assessment but absolved then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. "We knew where the responsibility rested," Thomas Pickering, whose career spans four decades, said Sunday.

Is this octogenarian's four decades relevant to his expertise in conducting investigations?  If so, why aren't we told that Greg Hicks has spent 22 years at State?  Wouldn't that be relevant, as well?

Of course, the ARB never interviewed Hillary.  Big surprise there.

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This is also amusing:

"They've tried to point a finger at people more senior than where we found the decisions were made," Pickering said of Clinton's critics.

No mention of Hicks and Nordstrom specifically identifying Patrick Kennedy, who is more senior than anyone put on administrative leave, yet is below HRC.  Don't you see, it's all about politics!  The Republicans want to get Hillary!  So we'll just ignore what the whistleblowers actually testified to.

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DocJay: Nice. Historically, we are due for a scandal anyway. The special meeting Friday with select reporters was likely a bad idea. Carney told them all to write,"little new information", and indeed many did. However, the rest of the reporters, outside the inner circle, are all having a moment of truth. Many will cross over to the world of actual journalism. · 1 hour ago

And they're still at it at AP:

The hourslong hearing produced no major revelation but renewed interest in the attacks that happened during the lead-up to the November 2012 presidential election.

We've also got:

Pickering and Mullen's scathing report released in December found that "systematic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels" of the State Department meant that security was "inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

There's the "Scathing report" language.  It's like the duty every MSM reporter had to refer to F & F as "botched" or "flawed".  They just copy the BS off of each other, I suppose.  

Senior levels, my backside.

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