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Entrepreneur with outspoken conservative views. I have many liberal acquaintances and am pleased to note that fewer and fewer of them are willing to defend Barack Obama. 

Perhaps that's because more and more of them are now out out of work and realize that, though they don't want to admit it, there's a causitive relationship between what happens in their own lives and what happens in Washington, DC. 


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Re: We still have heroes

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Yeah, yeah.  But what's Kim Kardashian up to these days?  And didya hear that Justin Bieber got a tattoo? 

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Re: Play it Again - Or Not

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Kieran McGovern: Surely you meant not much of a fan of films after 1980! Then again I read yesterday that it was very common for younger film fans to have a very hazy idea of who Cary Grant was, for example. 

I only wish I was "younger". 

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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wilber forge:  RE Tom Paine.

Point noted, then go forward and provide accollades to those you hire to farm animals and have butchered for your convenience. Having experience in the commercial vending aspect of meat products. Just be happy that for you perhaps ingnorance is bliss. · Oct 26 at 11:18pm

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And, other than shellfish, I'm a vegetarian.

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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wilber forge: The thread seems to call up murder as a hot button issue.

So much for that, anyone that complains about hunting as murder claims a higher moral ground. Yet, when purchasing any meat in a market is complicit in the murder of said beastie. How about being charged with murder as an accessory after the fact ? If one has simply engaged another to kill for you, you simply hired an assassin to do your bidding, then take the prize home in a nifty biodegradeable bag, guilt free.

The hypocracy is astounding.   · Oct 26 at 10:42pm

It's spelled "hypocrisy". 

Oh, and it's spelled "privilege". 

And the point here isn't who kills what for food.  The point is the celebration of killing.  Am I supposed to celebrate the manliness of people who go out with high-powered rifles to murder defenseless animals? 

Hoo-yah!  No, thanks.

Edited on October 27, 2011 at 8:03am
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Re: Folks, Stop Whatever You're Doing. Really. WATCH RICHARD.

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Peter, I heard Richard Epstein on the John Batchelor radio show the other day, critiquing Justice John Paul Stevens' memoir.  I was absolutely riveted.  Smartest guy I've ever heard.

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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CoolHand

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I never said anything about "eating".  The guy did not eat the rhinoceros, the elephant or the lion; he simply murdered them.  Sort of a thrill-kill thing.

Well, if you'd expended even a moment of time in research you'd realize that he's not allowed to take the meat, only the trophies.

When you fell a rhino/elephant/other exotic in Africa, the terms of the license dictates that the village nearest the kill site gets the meat.  They usually invite the hunter to a feast in his honor, but not always.

That's how the law works there.

I'm sure those local folks were tickled crapless that he "murdered" those critters on their land, what with them being tasty and whatnot.

Most people Observe->Research->Learn->Experience->React, but you've short circuited the process to efficiently jump directly from Observe to React with narry a care in the world for what you missed in the middle. · Oct 26 at 6:52pm

It's spelled "nary".

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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CoolHand

Tom Paine: My wife and I once had dinner with a very wealthy man, who could have done both of us a great deal of good, in terms of our businesses. 

He'd just returned from Africa and was eager to share photographs of the animals - an elephant, a rhinoceros and a lion - that he had, at great expense, and in cosseted luxury, murdered.

As soon as we said our goodbyes, I turned to my wife and said, "I never want to hear from him again". · Oct 26 at 11:05am

I have suspected for some time that you are Kenneth by another name, but this post confirms it.

Anyone who considers killing and eating an animal "murder" is simply not an adult.

You'll understand it when/if you finally finish growing up. · Oct 26 at 6:42pm

I never said anything about "eating".  The guy did not eat the rhinoceros, the elephant or the lion; he simply murdered them.  Sort of a thrill-kill thing. 

Edited on October 27, 2011 at 3:47am
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Re: Now is Not the Time to Cut Taxes

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Your arguments are irrelevant.  Here's what matters: Starve...the...Beast.

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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Mark Wilson

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Wouldn't it have been a "remarkable experience" just to see the grizzly in its habitat and leave it unmolested?

Tom Paine: Might I suggest that for the true manly experience of killing blameless animals, it might be best to put down all that modern weaponry and go after the critters with slings, clubs and wooden spears? 

Let's face facts: even women and sissies can murder creatures with a gun.

I hesitate to even engage in this discussion with you, but if hunting were about manliness you might have a point.  Many rifle hunters have great respect for bow hunters, for example, because of the extra patience, discipline, and skill that it can require.

Of course, for most hunters hunting is not primarily about proving one's manliness.  What it is about, well, you'll find as many answers as there are hunters. · Oct 26 at 5:47pm

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If it's not about proving manliness, then why mount trophies and take photographs?  Just to show oneself in proximity to a dead creature?  Heck, you could do that at the
poultry section of your local Safeway.

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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Might I suggest that for the true manly experience of killing blameless animals, it might be best to put down all that modern weaponry and go after the critters with slings, clubs and wooden spears? 

Let's face facts: even women and sissies can murder creatures with a gun.

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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Douglas Kimball: I bought a tag for every critter in the Alaska wilds and took a grizzly.  It was a remarkable experience.  · Oct 26 at 3:58pm

Wouldn't it have been a "remarkable experience" just to see the grizzly in its habitat and leave it unmolested?

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Re: It's Hunting Season! Oh, and There is This Campaign Or...Something, I Lose Track.

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My wife and I once had dinner with a very wealthy man, who could have done both of us a great deal of good, in terms of our businesses. 

He'd just returned from Africa and was eager to share photographs of the animals - an elephant, a rhinoceros and a lion - that he had, at great expense, and in cosseted luxury, murdered.

As soon as we said our goodbyes, I turned to my wife and said, "I never want to hear from him again".

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Re: The Best City in the World

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Let me know when Charleston's crime rate drops below its current status of 2.2 times the national average. 

Like a lot of other cities, it's not the city you live in - it's where in the city you live.

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Re: The Best City in the World

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Ah, ah, ah...the poll didn't name the "best cities in the world".  It named the best cities to visit.

Charleston? Bangkok? Capetown?  Amusing places to visit, I'm sure; but I wouldn't want to live there.

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Re: Conservative Flight

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Jimmy Carter

 The King Prawn: So, here's a thought: why has Detroit completely collapsed while other liberal enclaves like Portland and Seattle are still doing ok? Is it the specific industries each city supports? Was it the unions more than the liberal politics that drove a stake through Detroit's heart? · Oct 25 at 3:52pm 

Race. · Oct 25 at 5:51pm

Bingo, Jimmy.  You beat me to it.  The beginning of the decline of Detroit can be dated to the election of Mayor Coleman Young.  Young, by the way was a black union organizer with a vision of transforming Detroit.  Sound familiar?

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Re: Is this the beginning of the end for Cain?

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Karl Rove is the "brilliant" architect who steered George W Bush to a popular-vote loss in 2000 and the narrowest of re-elections in 2004.  In retrospect, the Republican party would have been better off without the two of them. 

Who cares what Rove thinks?

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