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A bibliophilic mother (C) and her refinery engineer husband (E) and their amazing new daughter (L).


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CandE
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CandE
Hometown:
Tyler, TX
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CandE

I don't feel as strongly about it as you do, Joseph, but I agree that College Football is a minor league.  I'd love to see a true minor league come into existence.  There is one, but it's not great.  A former coworker of mine is a owner/coach of one team here in East Texas and it's mostly high school dropouts, retreads and former college player wannabes.  If you could build a full league with local support then you could have college football be more like baseball: truly amateur.

-E

CandE

Of course he's not a socialist.  He's an Absolutist Monarch.

-E

CandE

Midget Faded Rattlesnake

CandE

However, "not being responsible" is not a good enough reason to forgo marriage when pregnant.  After all, it was irresponsibility that got the couple pregnant in the first place.  They're not going to do the baby any favors by continuing to put off responsible behavior.

It depends on the depth of the baby-daddy's irresponsibility. A guy who isn't responsible yet because he's never had to be is one thing. A guy who shows evidence of character flaws that seriously impede responsible behavior could be another thing.

I wouldn't want my daughter to marry a drunk, a criminal, a compulsive liar, a woman-beater, or a man with absolutely no sense of financial responsibility, even if she is pregnant with his child. In these extreme cases, adoption seems like a much better remedy for both mother and child. (It would, of course, be seriously disappointing to find out that my daughter was willing to have sex with such a wicked man.) · 6 hours ago

Absolutely agree, and I said as much in my post, though my list wasn't as exhaustive as yours.

-E

CandE
Foxman:  What do you say? · · 1 hour ago

Pregnancy is a good reason to marry.  That does preclude there being good reasons to not marry; if one of the parties was a career criminal or an addict, they shouldn't get married.  However, "not being responsible" is not a good enough reason to forgo marriage when pregnant.  After all, it was irresponsibility that got the couple pregnant in the first place.  They're not going to do the baby any favors by continuing to put off responsible behavior.

-E

Edited on May 14, 2013 at 7:45pm
CandE

Not a new idea.  Neal Stephenson already explored it in Snow Crash.

-E

CandE

The funniest scene on TV: A Bit of Fry and Laurie Major Donaldson, season 2, episode 2.  I can't post a youtube link, but you can see it on Netflix.

For movies, definitely the Stateroom scene in A Night at the Opera.

-E

Edited on May 10, 2013 at 3:34pm
CandE

In roughly chronological order:

  • Pre-20: Supertramp, Billy Joel, Duke Ellington (esp. Live at Newport), New Radicals, Abba
  • Mission: Brahms Intermezzi, Rachmaninoff, Debussy, Mana, Shakira
  • College: Matchbox 20 (esp. Mad Season), Bare Naked Ladies, Chris Merritt's Hello, Little Captain, Cake, Eagles, Eric Whitacre
  • Married: Kurt Elling, Beattles, Bobby McFerrin
  • Engineer: ZZ Top, Aerosmith, Herbie Hancock
  • Special mention: "Weird" Al Yankovic

-E

CandE
Mike Hinton: While the Left is wrong to pounce on it as a way to extend their agenda, I think Smart's words should at least be taken as a critique of religious emphasis on sexual purity. It shows what can happen if sex is held to such a high regard that everything is done to prevent the act to the extent that sends a harmful message. · 4 hours ago

But she's not criticizing the emphasis on sexual purity, she's criticizing the messaging.  Her prescription is to "educate young people... give them permission to fight back, tell that they do have value, and nothing can change that. That’s what we should be doing."

-E

CandE

Considering that Elizabeth served a mission and was married in the temple (both strong indicators of her loyalty to the teachings of the church), it's safe to say that she is definitely not suggesting that abstinence should not be taught.  However, (and it's a point worth discussing) chastity is a difficult subject to talk about and can be fraught with misunderstanding.  In trying to get out the message not to "give it away", too often what kids hear is "don't screw up or you're worthless".

-E

CandE

Avatar update, at your request.

-E

CandE

Various pictures of our crazy child.  If I get enough likes, I'll post more ;)

-E

CandE
Spin: You guys realize this is a setup, right?  Fred isn't interested in what qualifies as a Christian, he's interested in seeing all of us thrash about.  You've been had.   · 5 minutes ago

Good thing, then, that we haven't given him the satisfaction.

-E

CandE

Tom Meyer: I'd say the simplest definition is simply "Anyone who believes in either the Nicene or Apostle's creeds."

As others have said, Mormonism is tricky in this regard: I could make a case either way, though my inclination is to consider it the progeny of Christianity, rather than a subset of it, analogous to how Jews view Christians. · 2 hours ago

Edited 2 hours ago

That's not a bad comparison, but it does have a flaw.  Mormons don't view the restoration of the Church as significant a change as Christ fulfilling the law of Moses and establishing a new covenant.  Whereas Christ was replacing the true Church (Judaism/law of Moses) with a wholly new church, in modern times He simple reinstituted the Church from ancient times.

Also, if you changed the "Holy Catholic" to "Restored" in the text of the Apostles Creed, every Mormon would heartily endorse it.  

-E

CandE

Joseph Stanko

CandE: The 4th view and the 2nd view are the same.  If you say that it depends on membership in The Church, the question remains, "which church?"  "Well, the one that..."

Fair point.  I think the difference is that the 2nd view seems to put the emphasis on what the individual believes, while the 4th view focuses on the valid administration of a sacrament.

For instance: I think a validly-baptized newborn is a Christian even though he obviously doesn't yet understand a word of the Nicene Creed.

Conversely, I think an adult catechumen who has studied and understands and accepts the Nicene Creed, but has not yet been baptized, is not yet a Christian. · 5 minutes ago

It's the same thing with baptism: "which baptism is valid?" "Well, the one done this way..."

That's not to say that considering baptism a fundamental obligation of a Christian doesn't make sense.  Even a terse glance at the Bible reveals  how essential baptism is to a truly Christian belief system.  Where things start getting fuzzy is when people start to parse the how and why.  And then you're right back to doctrine.

-E

CandE

The 4th view and the 2nd view are the same.  If you say that it depends on membership in The Church, the question remains, "which church?"  "Well, the one that..."

-E

Joseph Stanko

CandE: To answer Fred's original question: it depends on who you ask, although you can break responses into 3 general categories.

  1. A broadly inclusive definition like the ones you provide
  2. A specific definition with a list of several key doctrine which must be embraced
  3. Some combination of the above

There's a 4th view that Rachel spelled out in the post you found for me:

In my understanding as a Catholic (which I think is widely shared), the question of whether or not one is a Christian ultimately comes down to membership. It’s not an issue of being devoted to Jesus Christ per se, or of being a good person. A Christian is a member of the Church founded by Jesus Christ, against which the gates of Hell will not prevail.

Basically I agree with her, and with this: · 23 minutes ago

Fricosis Guy: Anyone who has a valid Baptism via the Trinitarian formula as specified in the Great Commission. · 1 hour ago
CandE

To answer Fred's original question: it depends on who you ask, although you can break responses into 3 general categories.

  1. A broadly inclusive definition like the ones you provide
  2. A specific definition with a list of several key doctrine which must be embraced
  3. Some combination of the above

Atheists and agnostics tend toward the first answer, Orthodox Christians tend towards the 2nd answer, and non-Orthodox tend towards the 3rd.

I find myself in the 3rd camp (makes sense, since I'm a Mormon) because confessing Christs name is the first and most important distinctive characteristic of a Christian.  However, there are a few cases where a person or denomination will reject even the most fundamental ideas about Christ (i.e. divine, resurrected, Son of God) while still trying to claim to be Christian.  In those cases it's usually pretty obvious that they are not sincere in their faith and have ulterior motives.

-E

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