I dig the whole complexity of the laws issue. It's not capitalism though if no one knows the costs and there's third party payers.

Gotta go be a soccer dad. All of you suck rocks.

MLH, we can give cash rates unless we have an agreement with an insurance provider. I've always just done what I wanted anyway for the benefit of the patient.

I understand your point but people are often not at liberty to choose the ER in a real emergency. Also the insurance providers often contract with few hospitals for financial purposes. The cost issues in an ER, which no one knows except some bean counter in a basement, are so massively exorbitant that a couple facial stitches are billed out at 5000 dollars when the insurance approved payment rate might be 450. In the battle between massively inflated medical costs and nefarious insurance practices, the patient loses over and over without such protections.

Special effects for me but I'm usually really high and the lights, CG, and like the stuff are all like so wow. Man.

Quite a political mess we have here eh? I'm curious if the administration skates. All they've done so far is lie. The shame is, if we fail to pin this admin down, our history will record Obama as some sort of hero instead of a criminal.

Yes Antipodius, she came to me that way long ago. Knees, elbows, and a few other areas are a mess. She failed plaquenil and reacted very poorly to methotrexate. This mutilating type is quite unusual now as you know. She's in her 60s. Her husband is the fellow who took me turkey hunting last year.

I'm contemplating not paying my taxes if they refuse to get to the bottom of this. I'll give them until January.

Everything in this administration is scripted.  Everything.     

60 minutes interview question, post Benghazi.   "Mr Obama, I was just wondering how awesome it is to be so awesomely awesome?"

Beautiful.  FYI, gang of eight.  If you pass this bill and our country goes to heck in a bloody civil war, you can be sure people will remember you.    

It is not time to work together on anything but impeachment.  Lead, follow, or get out of the way.  

Yes.  

The lessons live well beyond the grave.  

Well go for it.  Have some courage, this bottle is on the house.

You're welcome and thanks for your thought provoking additions.   I'm bowing out of this thread now because I can't add anything more.   Keep at it. 

I bet you could be a podiatrist.  Seriously.  You have the brains and the inclination.  It's not too late to reinvent yourself.

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