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In New York, they used to say "A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged." In Oregon in appears that even a liberal woman who has been raped does not become conservative enough to get a gun. I wonder if she will get one now, or just blame Bush.
| Mollie Hemingway, Ed. I'm curious, though, on what basis does she decide that views different from hers are wrong? She's definitely condemning the views of people who disagree with her, but I'm not quite sure what the basis for the condemnation is. Can you help me out? · · 47 minutes ago |
I am not a theologian, but is it not doctrine that there is a difference between the sinful and the profane? One may condemn the opinion that the sinful is morally right, while tolerating a diversity of opinions about the profane, not to mention the secular.
Put differently, under God's law not everything that is not prohibited is required. That is how God's law is different from leftist's laws.
Facts don't convince lefties. The scales must fall from a lefty's eyes by themselves; they cannot be pried off.
Independents, however, often vote on feelings rather than ideology or policies. They can be motivated by disgust, just as they can be motivated by "hope and change" optimism. You don't have to change very many minds to make an electoral difference - especially when it comes to Red State Democratic Senators.
We are fortunate that Obama is stonewalling, which gives the impression of guilt and keeps the scandal alive. If Obama ordered every member of his administration to cooperate fully with Congress, and publicly stated that anyone taking the Fifth would be fired, he might get past this. But if Obama is going to continue to make speeches that say:
"I'm angry about this. Look at me - see? - this is my angry face!"
then Mr. Davis may well be right.
A full life contains accomplishments and experiences, and also relationships (which don't seem to fall into either category). I can't imagine foregoing any of them, and I don't think these goals relate to political ideology in any way.
| Mendel Please correct my math then. · 0 minutes ago |
Sure. Glad to. Out of every 100 Americans, 5 never had premarital sex (so they claim). 37 out of 100 say they believe premarital sex is morally wrong. (You have to ignore the ones who had premarital sex without believing it is wrong. They are not hypocrites. They are consistent.)
But 32 out of the 37 are hypocrites. They think premarital sex is wrong, but they did it anyway. That's why it is 5 out of 37 who are honest, and 32 out of 37 who are hypocrites. 5 out of 37 is not 33%.
| Herbert Woodbery: Cher had "greatest hits"? Ewwwww. Morally unacceptable Gypsies, tramps and thieves was good · 6 minutes ago |
Perhaps, but still morally unacceptable. And what the hell is "Doctor's Good"? And is a couple bottles enough?
| Mendel
95% of Americans have had premarital sex, but 37% of Americans do not find premarital sex morally acceptable. Assume that the 5% who have not had premarital sex also find it unacceptable, and we have 32% of Americans who have had premarital sex yet find it morally unacceptable: 32/95 = 33.6% of people who have had premarital sex do not find it morally acceptable. · 0 minutes ago |
That is fascinating math. Wrong, but fascinating.
| Indaba: Apple...come to Canada where our conservative government has our corporate taxes down to the lowest level in the G8 and maybe the G20. They changed the tax code to make it easier for American investors. Silicon Valley gets told to do their companies in Canada where there is a tech hub. Just don't do our other taxes... · 7 hours ago |
So your big problem is that low corporate tax rates in Canada are causing U.S. corporations to move there? Awww, boo hoo for Canada.
Or maybe you're being sarcastic. When reading lefty-speak, it is so hard to tell what is serious (I use the word loosely) and what is sarcasm.
Dividends and capital gains are totally different, for tax purposes. The reason to have lower tax rates on dividends is to prevent double taxation, and eliminating corporate taxes would change that. The reason to have lower tax rates on capital gains is that high rates on capital gains incentivize people to hold on to their capital investments rather than sell them, which causes economic inefficiency. Corporate tax rates don't affect that rationale.
| Mendel
According to a different study, 95% of Americans have had premarital sex. So apparently 1/3 of those who had premarital sex find their own actions morally unacceptable, because of course: · 7 minutes ago
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I'm not entirely sure that the 5% to 37% ratio is equal to 1/3.
| EThompson
Or worse yet, black leather sectional sofas and Cher's Greatest Hits blasting over the wireless intercom system? · 0 minutes ago |
Cher had "greatest hits"? Ewwwww. Morally unacceptable!
| Larry3435: For the 40% who believe that giving birth outside of marriage is morally unacceptable, is the morally acceptable alternative to giving birth (a) shotgun weddings or (b) abortions? · 8 minutes ago |
The best options are (a) not to get pregnant to begin with, there are ways to avoid that you know, and (b) adoption.
Yeah, but I don't think those are alternatives to "giving birth." Giving birth kind of assumes that you are, you know, pregnant. And adoption happens after you give birth - at least in my experience.
| tabula rasa: I thought the Democrats were the party of science? |
I beg your pardon? You thought WHAT???
Obviously, if we were all Democrats who believed in catastrophic, man-made global warming, we would live in NY or California like civilized people, and nobody would have been hurt yesterday. You guys just don't understand how science works...
"Giving birth outside marriage: 60% morally acceptable (+15%)
Heterosexual sex between unmarried persons: 63% morally acceptable (+10%)"
I find those two numbers just fascinating. My questions:
Where did they find 37% who believe premarital sex is morally unacceptable?
Only 3% believe sex out of marriage is acceptable but having a child out of marriage is not? Seriously? 3%???
For the 40% who believe that giving birth outside of marriage is morally unacceptable, is the morally acceptable alternative to giving birth (a) shotgun weddings or (b) abortions?
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Hmmm. It must have been the model for Obamacare.