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Pregnant Woman Turns Weapon of War on Home Invaders
Why do you need an AR-style rifle?
- None of your [Constitutionally protected NSFW language] business.
- To stop an invasion…of our homes. God made men but Colt made an eight-months pregnant woman equal to two men armed with pistols.
“They came in heavily hooded and masked. As soon as they had got the back door opened, they had a pistol on me and was grabbing my 11-year-old daughter,” [Jeromy King] said….
King said one of the men started pistol-whipping him while another kicked him repeatedly in the head. His wife, who is eight months pregnant, was in the back bedroom and peeked out to see what was going on.
King said one of the men shot at her. She retreated, grabbed an AR-15 and returned fire.
“When he came toward the back door in her line of sight, she clipped him,” King said. “He made it from my back door to roughly 200 feet out in the front ditch before the AR did its thing.”
Big thug with a pistol ends up dead in a ditch. Don’t tell the King family you are going to “buy back” their home-protection rifle. Don’t tell them they don’t really need a “weapon of war” for protection.
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The only “easy” route into my house would take a good five to ten seconds to get open.
My biggest issue would be “which gun is closer?”
(and, once again, I’m reminded that I need to get that shotgun I’ve been shopping for)
The more people who don’t like what you say, think, or do tell you they are going to take your “weapons of war”, the more important it is to actually have a “weapon of war”.
If you don’t live in California maybe a Mossberg 590 Shockwave is an option.
She had no reason to use such a scary, violent looking weapon when she could have shot that attacker with a far less militaristic looking hello kitty rifle ( or something. . .)
You just don’t need anything that looks too intimidating. And if the left decides you don’t need it, that means you can’t have it.
In the America they are building, everything that isn’t mandatory will be prohibited. And only then will we all be truly free!
It’s an interesting piece, but I’d rather have a more-standard type, stock and all. Maybe something like the Mossberg Tactical Persuader.
I wouldn’t mind a 590M magazine-fed shotgun, if the extra magazines weren’t a hundred-damn-dollars for a ten-round.
Not such a good design if you have family mixed in with the bad guys, which is why the AR-15 was superior to both a pistol (too easy for the barrel to shake side to side) and a shotgun (shot pattern might be an issue) in the news story situation. .223/5.56 recoil is perfect for an eight months pregnant lady or a young teen responding to the rest of the family under threat.
Well said and excellent point!
I’m sure Beto would tell us, “No one needs to survive a home invasion.”
I’m not a big fan of this design and I have good company. That said a solid 12 gauge pump is an ideal choice for home defense.
What a sad ending. One of the thugs lived.
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I’ve never understood this claim. It’s not necessarily a bad choice, but there’s nothing about a shotgun that makes it “ideal.” They are long, need to be pumped after each shot, the pellets don’t expand on contact, tend to shoot through walls, etc.
My preference for home defense is a pistol. It has a higher chance of being on my person unless I’m going to the shower or getting ready for bed, it has less chance of damaging my property (especially were I to not hit what I’m aiming at), and is much easier to use with one hand if necessary.
My second choice would be an AR-15. Then a shot gun. I think a rifle is easier to aim than a shot gun, but that’s just my preference.
How about a pistol caliber carbine, perhaps a bullpup (as SBR is likely out of the question)? Compactness for maneuverability but stable for accuracy in an extreme stress situation. Also helpful to retain the weapon.
I am reminded of the Dick Cheney quote when asked about how many guns he had:
“More than I need, not as many as I want”.
From my reading, it always seemed to boil down to:
GOATOAT
People say that, but I don’t know of any empirical evidence of it. If the guy is hopped up on drugs or withdrawals, he might not be so easily deterred. He might, however be alerted to your presence and shoot first.
In the Marines, one of the first rules of an ambush is to signal the attack with a lethal shot or explosion. You don’t start the ambush by blowing a whistle or yelling “fire!” Anything else just gives them a chance to duck. Likewise, if someone is in my home uninvited, I will assume he means me harm unless I can determine otherwise, and I don’t want to let him get the jump on me by lamely making noises with a shotgun cocking action.
I think the key is that the statement was the shot gun was “ideal.” I don’t think that’s a valid claim. There are pros and cons to any weapon choice, and the shotgun has many cons.
Using any firearm requires little training, despite the rhetoric to the contrary. That’s why firearms are so popular with militaries and anyone else with sense. It’s a lot less training than a long bow. You can teach someone to shoot a pistol effectively at short ranges within about an hour. They won’t be winning at the olympics, but most people will be hitting paper at 7 yards easily. You’ll be hard pressed to find much longer distances in most homes.
The shot gun is not a bad choice, unless you insist on using it to scare people with sound effects. It’s just not the “ideal” for all homes and home owners.
Longbows require a lifetime of steady practice. There is archaeological evidence that longbowmen actually underwent significant deformation of their skeletal structure in their shoulders due to the repetitive stress.
Crossbowmen only required crossbows and a little target practice. Oh, and something to stand behind while reloading, else the longbowmen would feather them up, down, and side-to-side.
I bet the families of the U.S. women murdered in Mexico Monday along with many of their children wish they had AR-15’s.
I’ll address that ambush in a separate post shortly.
My preference for a 12 gauge is simple: if you have a 5 shot shotgun then you have a 5 bad guy weapon . The incidence of a bad guy persisting after taking a load of buckshot at living room distances is almost non existent. That said, there have been periods in my life where the “bedside gun” was an AR, or a pistol, or a shotgun. Hell, when I was in Saudi Arabia for a few years (total prohibition on private ownership of firearms) my beside weapon was alternately a spear or a sword. I still keep one of each by the front door as a memory of when times were simpler and more complex.