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The Impeachment Frenzy Is a Firehose of…
Following political news on Twitter is often compared to drinking from a firehose. This is true on a slow day let alone the past week-plus of impeachment fever. Since the first Ukraine story hit, major media outlets have torn into Trump like piranhas on an ox carcass.
Reporters have declared “we’ve got him this time” every day since 2015; they don’t want to miss their latest chance, damn the facts. And there are so many, ahem, “facts.” Each hour, another blockbuster hits. It takes about 90 minutes to prove many of these scoops false or at least questionable. By then, another blockbuster has hit, and another, and another.
It’s a firehose, alright. A firehose of … a word Ricochet’s vaunted Code of Conduct does not allow me to post on this family-friendly website. Let’s just say the media uncorked a hydrant spraying taurine excreta throughout the Beltway and beyond. The fountain of feculence is hitting everyone in Trump’s orbit, from staffers to foreign leaders.
The torrent of sewage is so intense, it’s splashing back on Trump’s accusers in the media and politics. Before Adam Schiff can shake the night soil off his too-tight suit, reporters uncap new firehoses showering more steer stool in every direction.
No one’s even holding the hoses at this point; they’re spasmodic snakes, spraying dung in every direction from Kyiv to Canberra. Everyone will come out looking awful; Democrats, Republicans, pundits — you name it. Instead of a logical impeachment roll-out to win support among moderates and a few errant Republicans, the common voter will likely damn everyone involved.
Yes, Trump’s Ukraine call was questionable but it certainly doesn’t rise to the level of impeachment. Hunter Biden’s cashing in on his dad’s name is obviously corrupt; most Democratic voters would agree with that. Investigating foreign influence on our elections is a good thing, whether it’s coming from Democrats or Republicans.
Impeachment has been the left’s goal since December 2016 — before Trump took office. Ukraine is just another bite of the apple after the Mueller report failed so spectacularly.
The media hysteria over Ukraine feels a lot like the recent Greta hysteria. There’s no time to absorb facts, discuss options, or weigh pros and cons. We need to act now or else!
Hysteria is a poor strategy. It didn’t work for climate change or Kavanaugh or the many other panics we’ve been subjected to since Trump took office. How Trump’s detractors think this will end well is beyond me.
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I can tell you the last time I went to Twitter: March 1st, 2012. The day Andrew Brietbart died. The worse scum of the earth spewed septic venom at his death.. rejoicing in the death of a man, husband, father and son. I haven’t gone back since.
The happiest guy?
No his call was not questionable.
Trump’s call seems perfectly normal for one leader to another. Dear Lord, Obama promised Putin on a mic that he would bow to their wishes once he was reelected. Biden actually got someone fired. Under Obama, we helped to depose the elected leader of another nation, and somehow, Trump asking another leader to work on an investigation is wrong.
Jon, please outline for me how what Trump did was wrong. How is it wrong for a President to want to explore interference in our electoral process. Ignore the Biden part for a moment, and tell me why it was wrong. If you cannot do that, then what you are really saying is that Trump is wrong only because of the Biden angle, and thus, being in politics means you are shielded from your wrongdoing.
Questionable in that I can see how some people would view it as a quid pro quo. But it’s far easier to read it as a pretty standard call. “Questionable” does not mean “wrongdoing.”
This is ebulliently craptacular [technical term that hopefully doesn’t violate TOS].
OK, I will accept that.
I am used to “Questionable” meaning “wrongdoing. “
Frankly, I think if we could see every last conversation of every political type, we would burn them all alive.
I LOVE IT!
Nope. Wasn’t at all questionable.
well, ok. Everything any politician does is questionable, but someone will always disagree and there’s always another election.
Questionable refers to there being some question as to whether the action was good or not. Joe Biden’s actions, for example, were not questionable. There is no question about them.
So, what Trump did on the phone with Zelensky is questionable? Is it only questionable because Biden is running for president? The usual suspects are howling because Trump talked with Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia about the Mueller investigation. Is Mueller running for president too? (He could be: damn near everybody else is.) Or is it because Mueller and his merry band of morons blew through $35m investigating a nothing-burger?
I want to know how they got the FISA court to sign off on investigating Carter Page. And if all they had going into that was the Steele dossier, I want heads on pikes.
Having facts is better, but failing that, “pound the table” makes the best of a bad hand. Also, people of the Left think with their hearts, not their brains, so it works better with Lefties.
I am happy my dead mother is running in the Dem primary. Innoculates me from all the illegal activity I am involved in.
You know it just occurred to me that this impeachment inquiry might be politically motivated…
Jon, I think that your reasoning is incorrect.
We seem to agree that it was permissible for the President to inquire and ask for help in investigating possible corruption involving Biden or his son. If this is true, then it is also acceptable to require such investigation as a condition on conferring some other benefit on Ukraine.
Now, it would be a problem if the situation were actually something like “I’ll pay you a bunch of money to concoct an unfounded scandal in order to take down my political opponent.” You know, the way that some Democrat operatives concocted the whole Trump/Russia collusion nonsense.
This latest coup attempt is the 4th by my count:
I think the whistle blower is more about creating a distraction based on the work Barr, and the people who work for Barr, are doing. The dems know where Barr and co have been and likely where they are going because people talk. They are desperate to muddy the waters and this is the latest attempt.
People tried to thwart the will of the people thru subterfuge and malign use of power. Trump is right to get to the bottom of it. I used to think there was only one thing to remember vis a vis this whole fiasco and that was: they thought she would win. But, now I think there are two things to remember: they thought she would win and Trump knew there was no collusion. Thinking she would win allowed the clowns to think they could violate all manner of laws and rights (4th amendment etc) without fear. Trump knowing there’s no collusion is seeking to root out the traitorous bastards.
If you have not yet read or listened to “Ball of Collusion” you should. It’s interesting.
Oh yeah – phone call my a$$. Nothing burger of all nothing burgers.
I’ve seen headlines “Trump recruiting foreign leaders to impugn Mueller” LOL. BS. Trump is having Barr talk to the Aussies, Italians, Brits etc to see what they did with respect to that ball of collusion. I think I understand better Trumps apparent disdain for Theresa May.