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Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test Contradicts Her Previous Stories About Native American Ancestry
Elizabeth Warren recently released the results of a DNA test which she claims proves that she is of Native American descent.
The claim in the report is that it is likely that Elizabeth Warren has a Native American ancestor from 8 generations ago. If we assume that a generation is 25 years, and given that Warren was born in 1949, that would this Native American ancestor was born sometime around 1749, well before the founding.
Let’s assume for a moment that this analysis is correct. How does this square with previous claims about Warren’s heritage? Her brother said in 2012 “[Our] grandfather is part Delaware, a little bitty bit, way back, and [our] grandmother is part Cherokee.”
If that’s the case, wouldn’t wouldn’t we expect to see a lot more Indian DNA, and much more recently? It implies that there should be Indian DNA as late as 4 generations back, which is significantly outside the range (between 6 and 10 generations) estimated by the DNA analysis as to when she had a Native American ancestor.
How does she explain this contradiction? I mean, either brother is wrong about whether his grandmother is Cherokee, or the conclusion of the analysis of the DNA test is wrong about when her Native American ancestor lived. If the test actually demonstrates that her brother is wrong about what she said, then wasn’t she still wrong when she claimed to be a Native American, since she used that story as the basis for her claim?
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I saw that, and what I got out of it is that 1) the DNA test is not conclusive; and 2) while DNA testing can be used to determine lineage, the tribe sets the rules for “tribal affiliation.” I don’t know what is meant by “tribal affiliation” (perhaps something akin to citizenship?), but apparently the tribe draws a distinction between it and lineage. I’ll admit to not being aware of everything Warren has claimed (mostly because I just don’t care), but I’ve assumed her claims are with regard to lineage.
There are so many ways to look at this. If one of Warren’s 2,046 immediate ancestors (ten generations) was Native American, then Warren is only 489 parts per million (ppm) Native American.
The atmosphere is only 400 ppm carbon dioxide, and many claim that is enough to destroy life as we know it.
Here’s just one of the whoppers she told. Note the specific claim she makes to be Cherokee…. (oh yeah, she plagiarized the recipes as well)….
From the Elizabeth Warren Wiki
Investigative reporter Michael Patrick Leahy[4] traced Ms. Rowsey to a book titled Pow Wow Chow: A Collection of Recipes from Families of the Five Civilized Tribes: Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek & Seminole[5].
In the Pow Wow Chow cookbook were recipes allegedly authored by Warren, as reported by Daily Mail[6]:
Wait till they find out Cherokees (and other tribes) had African American slaves and went to court to keep them after emancipation!
(Why does Elizabeth Warren think she could be elected president? She’s about the only person who is more shrill than Hillary Clinton. She’ll also be 71 years old in 2002.)
Who in the United States isn’t part North American Indian, especially if you have ancestors from near Oklahoma or the Southwest?
I think I’m 1/32nd. I mentioned this to a friend who said that he thought he was 1/16th. My relatives took a DNA test that showed no North American Indian ancestry though.
Isn’t this like being a descendant of Charlemagne. It’s almost impossible for a person with European ancestry NOT to be a descendant of Charlemagne.
I wonder what the average percentage is for a US citizen whose family has mostly lived in the United States for the past 100 years. Would that percentage be about the same as that of Elizabeth Warren?
Besides those DNA tests are often faulty. They can’t even always identify identical triplets.
You’ve just made a lot of judgments about how this is bad for conservatives, but now admit you never bothered to inform yourself on exactly what she claimed?
When Warren ran for the Senate and her fake lineage first came out, Native Americans complained back then, too. But the press and the left (but I repeat myself) did what they could to bury their complaints. That was one of those moments I realized that Native Americans are fairly low on the left’s Grievance Hierarchy.
Hah! The imperialist bastards at Better Homes and Gardens’ blatant cultural appropriation of Herbed Tomatoes will not stand!
The People, united, shall never be defeated!
The People, united, shall never be defeated!
Straight up from here:
1. Elizabeth Warren claims Cherokee heritage
2. President Trump mocks here
3. Warren DNA test comes back 1/1,024th positive
4. Trump is impeached
5. President Sacheen Littlefeather
Nope. Family membership from specific tribes. Cherokee and Delaware.
Here is a list of claims as compiled by Benny Johnson, journalist with The Daily Caller and recorded by Twitchy.
Conclusion
no no no – it is “Straightforward from here” first used by Sally Kohn to make Hillary President by impeaching President Trump and VP Pence which somehow ends up in a special election that Hillary miraculously wins.
Has Shaun King weighed in yet? Would like to know his thoughts.
I am not yet tired of all the winning.
Rachel Dolezal is more Black than Elizabeth Warren is Indian!
I think we all owe Rachel an apology. And an academic post somewhere.
Ancestry has a picture of my Indian ggg-grandmother, born about 1859, and that (and possible other Indian ancestry) did not turn up in my 23 and Me DNA report. Which doesn’t mean it’s false, but for various reasons they’re not bringing it out.
Anyone remember Teresa Heinz Kerry way back during the 2004 Presidential campaign?
“I’m an African American.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084513/posts
I love the comment that says “Democrats are the only reason you indians are even alive.”
I wonder if Mr. “Red Pill Philosophy” has ever even heard of Andrew Jackson?
As others have noted, it’s an illustrative example for those who don’t pay attention to the insanity of identity politics. It means every argument she makes is wrong-footed from the get-go, because she told a whopper to give herself ethnic cred.
It’s not a non-issue. It’s central to the Left’s precepts: blood confers moral authority. Skin color, eye shape, DNA details – these are invaluable facts that must be taken into consideration when you judge the arguments.
I read somewhere that Iceland, due to its obvious remoteness, is the one of the best opportunities that geneticists have to study a relatively “pure” (my word, not theirs) gene pool since there has been so little outside influence (comparatively) on it. I’m not sure how many generations back the current Icelandic ethnic strain goes though.
Whether or not a politician is a liar used to matter to people.
Thanks for the visual. It does add some perspective.
“In more quantitative terms, ~10% of the men who reside within the borders of the Mongol Empire as it was at the death of Genghis Khan may carry his Y chromosome, and so ~0.5% of men in the world, about 16 million individuals alive today, do so.”
This guy…..
It matters to people when the other side lies. When it’s their guy? Not so much.
The bigger point, to me, is whether this will change minds. I’d prefer the focus be less on Warren specifically and more on why racial preferences in hiring/admissions are so insidious. (I have no problem using Warren as Exhibit A in making that case.) But all Warren has to do is say it was part of her family’s lore that they were American Indian. Those so inclined will believe her, since just about every family has stories that get passed down that no one can verify. Those who call BS were never going to believe her anyway.
Yes Iceland is a human geneticist dream, they also have fairly good family lineage records. Some Jewish communities are also really good too. Still compared to livestock or pure bred dogs the Icelanders are all muts.
Yes but we live in the age of Trump.
In the context of your last paragraph, I’m on board. Use Warren as a poster child for arguing against racial preferences. But that’s not what I see people doing. And that case needs to be made explicitly (as opposed to simply calling her a liar), because, as you say, many people don’t pay attention to the insanity of identify politics.
Oh please . . .
You know, I’m actually going to do something I’m typically loathe to do, and point out that Trump’s lying is absolutely not the same as Warren’s.
Trump lies frequently, but his lies are essentially narcissistic in nature and rather transparent. He doesn’t lie for advantage in the typical way that would be expected of people trying to strategically pursue a specific outcome. Largely because he doesn’t pursue anything in a strategic sense; he improvises and iterates his way towards whatever it is he wants. The lying is usually just a byproduct of not really thinking while he’s in the middle of doing whatever it is he’s doing.
Deliberately engaging in this sort of shameless, ethnic fraud for at least 9 years in order to secure career advancement and financial gain is a much more deliberate and pre-meditated behavior. Doubling down on it in the particular fashion she did, by getting a DNA test that shows she’s not an Indian at all and then claim it shows she’s an Indian, is something a lot more brazen and deliberately deceptive.
Lying is bad, but deliberate, premeditated lying that insults everyone’s intelligence is worse than reflexive lying that’s really lying to yourself which happens to be externalized.