Nikki Haley Is Making a List…

 

In the spirit of the season, and I mean Christmas, Hanukkah, and New Year’s Day, our Ambassador to the UN warned every other nation’s delegation that…

She’s making a list.

She’s checking it twice.

She’s already found out who’s naughty and nice (final list at 1:57:55). [Thanks to @arahant for screen capture.]

Santa Claus will no longer hand out American taxpayers’ cash to UNgrateful nations that disrespect US.

It is a refreshing change to have our most public diplomat represent the will of the American people to the UN and not the other way around. There are a number of nations who either are in denial or who are blinded to their own peoples’ interests because of deeply embedded Jew-hatred at the core of their foreign offices. They are now finding American elections have consequences. So…

Happy New Year: President Trump will really put US interests over the UN and his choice of Ambassador Nikki Haley ensures his intent is supported, not opposed, by our diplomatic mission. Scott Johnson of PowerLine favorably compares Nikki Haley in this moment to Daniel Patrick Moynahan denouncing the infamous “Resolution 3379, declaring Zionism a form of racism.”

Happy Hanukkah: President Trump’s move to fulfill US law and the repeated promises of multiple presidents to recognize the Jewish people’s ancient and abiding connection to Jerusalem.

Merry Christmas: President Trump brought presents of promises fulfilled. He is also clearly stating there is a naughty list his chief UN elf has prepared for him. President Trump announced moving our embassy both as a matter of honor and in the hope it might disabuse the Palestinians of their eliminationist fantasy, creating the possibility of real negotiations in search of peace on Earth, or at least in that little sliver of land where Christ was born so long ago.

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  1. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Kay of MT (View Comment):
    there is nothing I could read that would convince me that Islam has any redeeming qualities

     

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not hearing a no :-)

    No, I won’t read any book redeeming Islam.

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  2. Zafar Member
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    It’s not about Islam, it’s about Israel.

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  3. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    It’s not about Islam, it’s about Israel.

    You read Caroline Glick’s book. A plan for all to live in harmony under democratic law.

    http://carolineglick.com/the-israeli-solution-2/

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  4. Arahant Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    It’s not about Islam, it’s about Israel.

    Or the UN’s prejudice against Israel.

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  5. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    By the way, other states in the region are mean to Palestinians too. There are a couple of explanations, at least, that I can think of. The first is bigotry. (The explanations coming out of Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc. as to why they couldn’t take in Syrian refugees were, essentially, “well, being poor, desperate and dirty, you know, they just wouldn’t fit in here.” Saudi Arabia did offer to build a new mosque or two in Europe. Sweet of them.)

    The second explanation, which does not necessarily exclude the first, is that the Palestinians in residence in, say, Iraq are far more useful as “refugees” and potential “returnees” than as ordinary residents of Iraq.

    Would you, Zafar, be satisfied if all the Palestinian refugees were simply scooped up and relocated to other countries? Would that settle the problem for you? No more “right of return,” but a nice split-level ranch somewhere in New Jersey, Queensland, Malmo or Kent?

    • #125
  6. Zafar Member
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    @Zafar

    I think they might be more satisfied, which is what is meaningful.  It isn’t up to me (or you) to make that decision.

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  7. Zafar Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    It’s not about Islam, it’s about Israel.

    Or the UN’s prejudice against Israel.

    Aren’t you being a bit prejudiced?

    You’ve decided that any book I recommend will be worthless because you disagree with me rather than basing your assessment on the book itself.

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  8. Arahant Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    Aren’t you being a bit prejudiced?

    Oh, I thought we were talking about the initial conversation.

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  9. Zafar Member
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    Kay of MT (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    It’s not about Islam, it’s about Israel.

    You read Caroline Glick’s book. A plan for all to live in harmony under democratic law.

    http://carolineglick.com/the-israeli-solution-2/

    Well – sadly I guess our conversation (which goes two ways) didn’t get very far, but it was nice talking.

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  10. Zafar Member
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    @Zafar

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    By the way, other states in the region are mean to Palestinians too. There are a couple of explanations, at least, that I can think of. The first is bigotry. (The explanations coming out of Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc. as to why they couldn’t take in Syrian refugees were, essentially, “well, being poor, desperate and dirty, you know, they just wouldn’t fit in here.” Saudi Arabia did offer to build a new mosque or two in Europe. Sweet of them.)

     

    Okay, also I’m not sure that you’re correct about some of this. (Some websources are not trustworthy.)

    Up to 70% of Jordan’s population is of Palestinian descent (from West of the River, either ’48 or ’67 refugees) – where did you get the idea that Jordan didn’t take any Palestinians?

    Syrians in Jordan: things have changed since 2015, but here’s a rough breakdown from then:

     

    And wrt Syrians in the Gulf and Saudi:

    Western media miscount the Syrian refugees because the primary data source, The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, does not count the refugees within the Gulf States. These states are not signatories to the Refugee Convention, their refugee relocations are not handled by the UNHCR.

    There are 2 million to 3 million Syrians in the Gulf countries, many of whom arrived since the war began, but they are not considered refugees and they are not part of the UNHCR statistics. They are classified as “Arab brothers and sisters in distress” instead of refugees covered by UN treaties…

    The government of Saudi Arabia has stated that, since the Syrian conflict began in 2011, it has hosted 2.5 million refugees and has given permanent residency to hundreds of thousands of Syrians. According to Saudi officials, the kingdom „was keen to not deal with them as refugees, or to put them in refugee camps, to preserve their dignity and safety, and gave them complete freedom of movement.” Saudi Arabia also says it has given Syrians access to work, free medical care and education. Over 100,000 Syrian students were being educated in Saudi schools.

    The United Arab Emirates also defended its response to the Syrian refugees crisis. According to a statement issued by the UAE government in September 2015, [“]the UAE has made it one of its foreign policy priorities to address this issue in a sustainable and humane fashion together with its regional and international partners”. The UAE government said it has provided residency permits to more than 100,000 Syrians who have entered the country since 2011, and that more than 242,000 Syrian nationals currently live in the country.

    So? Which are the false facts?

    …the Palestinians in residence in, say, Iraq are far more useful as “refugees” and potential “returnees” than as ordinary residents of Iraq.

    Yes, but to whom?  Saddam didn’t treat them that way, the people we backed to replace him are.

     

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  11. Zafar Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    Aren’t you being a bit prejudiced?

    Oh, I thought we were talking about the initial conversation.

    No, the book.

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  12. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    Aren’t you being a bit prejudiced?

    Oh, I thought we were talking about the initial conversation.

    No, the book.

    You didn’t tell the name of the book nor the author. Without those two important details we can only surmise, coming from a Muslim, it would be anti-Israel. Or it could conceivably be from a Muslim citizen of Israel who is quite happy to be living in Israel and not the Judea. We have Muslim citizens of Israel who actually serve in the IDF, and are fully integrated into Israeli society. Should we be mistaken, please name the book and it’s author.

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  13. Zafar Member
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    Kay of MT (View Comment):
    Should we be mistaken, please name the book and it’s author.

    The Other Side of Israel.  From the Amazon blurb:

    In 2003, Susan Nathan moved from her comfortable home in Tel Aviv to Tamra, an Arab town in the northern part of Israel. Nathan had arrived in Israel four years earlier and had taught English and worked with various progressive social organizations. Her desire to help build a just and humane society in Israel took an unexpected turn, however, when she became aware of Israel’s neglected and often oppressed indigenous Arab population. Despite warnings from friends about the dangers she would encounter, Nathan settled in an apartment in Tamra, the only Jew among 25,000 Muslims. There she discovered a division between Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs as tangible as the concrete wall and razor-wire fences that surround the Palestinian towns of the West Bank and Gaza.

    From her unique vantage point, Nathan examines the history and the present-day political and cultural currents that have created a situation little recognized in the ongoing debates about the future of Israel and the Middle East. With warmth, humor, and compassion, she portrays the daily life of her neighbors, the challenges they encounter, and the hopes they harbor. She introduces Arab leaders fighting against entrenched segregation and discrimination; uncovers the hidden biases that undermine even the most well-intentioned Arab-Jewish peace organizations; and describes the efforts of dedicated individuals who insist that Israeli Arabs must be granted the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

    Through her own courageous example, Nathan proves that it is possible for Jews and Arabs to live and work peacefully together. The Other Side of Israel is more than the story of one woman’s journey; it is a road map for crossing a divide created by prejudices and misunderstandings.

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    Zafar (View Comment):
    describes the efforts of dedicated individuals who insist that Israeli Arabs must be granted the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

    Israel has invited any Arab to become Israeli citizens, and they will have the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens. However, they have to take a loyalty oath. October 18, 2010 prime minister Netanyahu ordered Justice minister Ya’akov Ne’eman to extend Cabinet-level debate on the bill in order to add amendments which make the loyalty oath universal to both Jewish and non-Jewish immigrants who seek citizenship.[27] This inclusion of Jewish immigrants was supported by the Anti-Defamation League.

    Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America.

    • #134
  15. Kay of MT Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    it is a road map for crossing a divide created by prejudices and misunderstandings.

    Of course, they have to stop the slaughter of Jews and expecting them to jump into the sea and vanish. BTW, this book is pure propaganda, because most of the prejudices come from the Arabs through their Islamic teachings. As I indicated above, there are many, many Arab citizens in Israel, they even serve in the government, Judges on the bench, Doctors, Nurses. etc. Arabs are not being kept out, they keep themselves out.

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  16. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Kate Braestrup (View Comment):
    By the way, other states in the region are mean to Palestinians too. There are a couple of explanations, at least, that I can think of. The first is bigotry. (The explanations coming out of Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc. as to why they couldn’t take in Syrian refugees were, essentially, “well, being poor, desperate and dirty, you know, they just wouldn’t fit in here.” Saudi Arabia did offer to build a new mosque or two in Europe. Sweet of them.)

    Okay, also I’m not sure that you’re correct about some of this. (Some websources are not trustworthy.)

    Up to 70% of Jordan’s population is of Palestinian descent (from West of the River, either ’48 or ’67 refugees) – where did you get the idea that Jordan didn’t take any Palestinians?

    Syrians in Jordan: things have changed since 2015, but here’s a rough breakdown from then:

    And wrt Syrians in the Gulf and Saudi:

    Western media miscount the Syrian refugees because the primary data source, The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, does not count the refugees within the Gulf States. These states are not signatories to the Refugee Convention, their refugee relocations are not handled by the UNHCR.

    There are 2 million to 3 million Syrians in the Gulf countries, many of whom arrived since the war began, but they are not considered refugees and they are not part of the UNHCR statistics. They are classified as “Arab brothers and sisters in distress” instead of refugees covered by UN treaties…

    The government of Saudi Arabia has stated that, since the Syrian conflict began in 2011, it has hosted 2.5 million refugees and has given permanent residency to hundreds of thousands of Syrians. According to Saudi officials, the kingdom „was keen to not deal with them as refugees, or to put them in refugee camps, to preserve their dignity and safety, and gave them complete freedom of movement.” Saudi Arabia also says it has given Syrians access to work, free medical care and education. Over 100,000 Syrian students were being educated in Saudi schools.

    The United Arab Emirates also defended its response to the Syrian refugees crisis. According to a statement issued by the UAE government in September 2015, [“]the UAE has made it one of its foreign policy priorities to address this issue in a sustainable and humane fashion together with its regional and international partners”. The UAE government said it has provided residency permits to more than 100,000 Syrians who have entered the country since 2011, and that more than 242,000 Syrian nationals currently live in the country.

    So? Which are the false facts?

    …the Palestinians in residence in, say, Iraq are far more useful as “refugees” and potential “returnees” than as ordinary residents of Iraq.

    Yes, but to whom? Saddam didn’t treat them that way, the people we backed to replace him are.

    I hope you are right—I really do, Zafar. I want things to be better in the middle east than, from my (inadequate) vantage point they appear to be.

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  17. Zafar Member
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    Things aren’t great @katebraestrup – but I think it’s important to recognize that they do some human things better than is assumed or reported (imagine Australia or the US dealing with the equivalent of 15% of their population as refugees coming across the border – would we cope as graciously as Lebanon has?) and even more importantly, that we stop doing or supporting stuff that makes things worse.

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  18. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    @katebraestrup – I forgot where we were talking about this, but here’s a youtube thing from Corey Gil-Shuster on the very subject:

    I wish I’d thought of him earlier – he’s got really interesting ‘ask’ videos on almost everything related to Israel and Palestine.

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  19. Kate Braestrup Member
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    @GrannyDude

    I don’t get why you call Israel a “colony” or “colonial power.” There were already a lot of Jews living in Palestine, and they and theirs had been there for thousands of years. Those who arrived from elsewhere didn’t come on behalf of their original country but—usually—fleeing from it.   Very different from the French in Algeria, for example.

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  20. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    (Some websources are not trustworthy.)

    Why isn’t Gatestone trustworthy?  I tend to like sites that make their point of view plainly known, but in addition, either Iraq passed the anti-Palestinian law or it didn’t. Are you saying that Gatestone made it up?

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  21. Kate Braestrup Member
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    Quote from Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor:

    “Iraqi President Fuad Masum had ratified legislation No. 76 of 2017, revoking the rights and privileges granted to Palestinians in Iraq under Law No. 202 issued under Saddam Hussein’s era, which granted Palestinians most of the same rights and obligations as Iraqis.

    The new law deprives Palestinians living in Iraq of their right to free education, healthcare and to travel documents, and denies them work in state institutions. By placing them under the category of foreigners, this decision puts a major roadblock before Palestinians’ accessibility to work in private institutions and businesses.”

    Is that not true? Is Euro-Med making it up?

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  22. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    No, that story seems true.

    I don’t have a problem with strongly opinionated editorial policies – but I do think that this can be detrimental wrt curation of news to provide a partial or misleading picture to the reader.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gatestone-institute/

    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/22/german-election-afd-gatestone-institute/

     

     

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  23. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    I don’t know about the conclusions, but wrt colony:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/north-africa-west-asia/jonas-fossli-gjersø/israel-last-of-settler-colonies

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  24. Kate Braestrup Member
    Kate Braestrup
    @GrannyDude

    The website seems a little, um, biased too. Still doesn’t seem like a “colony” to me. And if South Africa is the model, the Palestinians are in dire need of a Mandela.

    But I thought the comments were unusually good.

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